On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 04:08:07PM -0700, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > On Wed, 2023-06-14 at 20:48 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > To be clear, the Ubuntu Release Team has always been open to non- > > Canonical employees. I just don't expect community members of the > > Release Team to increase our "core" capacity. > I think that's a rather short-sighted expectation. If you have a > volunteer Release Team member that is passionate and sold-out for the > project, I think you'd be surprised as to what they'll accomplish. > Again, going back to my education, we're taught volunteerism. > Volunteers are in some ways easier to work with than employees, but in > some ways harder. When it comes to volunteers, you don't have a > paycheck to hold over their heads, so you have to cast the vision of > the project/organization to them often, especially if they're feeling > close to burnt-out. At the same time, if they need to take a break, you > have to let them. That said, they tend to be more passionate because > they're not doing it for a paycheck; they're doing it because it's the > thing they love. An army of volunteers is typically the most powerful > force in the world. So, don't ever underestimate community members. Driving a milestone is a two-week, full-time committment possibly in excess of 40 hours a week. Because Ubuntu releases are time-based, this work cannot be deferred or spread out as a result of other committments. I would not ask a community member of the Ubuntu Release Team, who is not being paid to do this work, to make such a committment. Even if someone did volunteer to do this, I do no think the Release Team should accept such an offer, as it's both exploitative of volunteer labor and unfairly places the volunteer in a position that, if they fail to deliver for any reason, impacts the business of Canonical. This is what I am referring to as "core" capacity. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer https://www.debian.org/ [email protected] [email protected]
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