Hello Dane On 22 Sep 2011, at 11:56, Dane Trethowan wrote:
• Well I don't agree with your comments I'm afraid and perhaps I should ask are you really serious in this discussion? Yes, perfectly. But I'm not prepared to allow this to turn into an argument. • What I mean is that I've pointed out sites and reference info which will give you more information on Android in this case and you say you don't have time to look at this and yet you're quite happy to tell us how you understand people with disabilities and their needs? I don't recall disputing it; nor saying I wouldn't look. Where's your problem? • If I heard anyone else making a statement like that then I could quite rightly assume that the person making that sort of statement was up themselves and didn't want to learn what may be available in the world of accessibility and technology and the only loser through such an attitude would be those nearest and dearest to them who may need accessible equipment whatever that is. Dane; you're twisting everything I say. I also take those comments as being extremely distasteful. I am neither not interested in accessibility which, as I keep saying, doesn't even come into this since I did not try it from the perspective of accessibility, I didn't have the time to investigate that. It wasn't my device and I only had it here for a bout an hour. But it seems you're determined to twist everything I say to make it look as though I'm trying to do you down, which I am not. This happens every time I try to start a discussion, it seems. So perhaps I'd better just keep my mouth shut and let you get ob with it. Do you hear me arguing when, for instance, you start talking about your new toys; printers, laptops, whatever? No, you don't because I've never tried them and have no interest in doing so. But for the record, just so other members of the group are aware of the true facts. I am acutely interested in accessibility. Nor am I, to use Dane's phrase, "Up myself". I have, and will continue to, gone out of my way to find out as much as I can about accessibility. I do not claim to be an expert; nor do I claim to know everything about things like Android. I simply based my comments on a specific device, and I made it perfectly clear in my message that I am well aware that things are different elsewhere. I also made it clear that I did not have the time to investigate accessibility because the device belonged to somebody else; and was only here for about an hour. Those who are not determined to twist my comments to suit their own ends will understand I am sure that I actually intended to get the point across that the initial tests were a basis on which I intend to formulate opinions when I try other similar devices; which I do intend to do. Accessibility is one aspect I would love to investigate, and will do when I get the opportunity to play with a device for long enough. But it's difficult within the space of an hour to test everything, look around websites, do this, that and the other. Clearly though there are those who don't seem to understand that. I think that is sad. Accessibility is obviously important to those who rely on it. Since my own spouse is one of those people and, I should point out, he too has a hearing impairment, I do make it my own business to investigate. But perhaps I should jut keep my thoughts and findings to myself since it's clear that everything I, as somebody not in the same position, say about things like this are being twisted and manipulated to suit other people's interpretations. That's one of the sad things about email I guess; but be that as it may, for the record, I am not making across-the-board judgements. Nor am I trying to put anybody down. Nor am I trying to state that anybody else's opinions or findings are wrong, invalid or unimportant. Nor am I trying to belittle anybody. Nor am I trying to state that my knowledge is greater than anybody else's; quite the contrary. I would enjoy participating in impersonal,objective and fair discussion. I would also have no problem with anybody informing me of fact if I make incorrect assumptions or observations. But what I do object too is people effectively putting words into my mouth and twisting what I say. Lynne ======================================= The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> ---------------------------------------
