Hello Chris This was precisely the point I tried, seemingly unsuccessfully, to make in my original post which was taken way out of context. I had problems when playing with the Motorola phone and it put me off, although I'm still willing to look elsewhere. I agree with you about the fragmentation, and it seems that is set to continue.
I'll say it once more time; I am not, was not and will not try and put anybody down. Nor am I condemning unilaterally without first trying. I will check out accessibility options as well; but at the moment I am not exactly over-enthusiastic. So I guess it's going to be a case of carefully selecting your device, then carefully selecting your accessibility tool where required then carefully selecting your apps, carefully selecting your provider; all a bit too much of a hassle at the moment it would seem. I don't get these problems with iPhone and it just works. I personally don't want to spend hours classing around trying to find things that will allow me to do the basics. Again I don't dispute that there are good out there as well as the not so good in the Android market. But although I'm interested, and I will still look at at the various devices, at the moment I'm not particularly optimistic. I don't dispute that there are better internal speakers in other models. Neither do I dispute that there are some things in iPhone which could be better. Neither do I dispute that, for other reasons, iPhone users in Australia got a raw deal because of the low volume which I fully accept was a problem for the hearing impaired. However, I remember a while back Gordon bought an iRiver, on the pretext of running something called Rockbox. Well; we did get it installed into the H10, but found it extremely limited in capability because of the speech it used. A lot of things were spelled out, rather than spoken in words and we both found that a pain in the proverbial. So that was one example of a tool which although I could used it, Gordon found slow going and he soon lost patience. We still have the H10 actually and it's sitting in a little case somewhere doing sweet fanny adams. I certainly have no intention of repeating that kind of purchase based on a clunky operating system which isn't going to provide reliable usability without tweaking and poking. That's how I see Android at the moment; based purely upon what I've seen. I saw an Android device when they first hit the streets. I saw one yesterday and, whilst I wouldn't deny there is improvement, it was, as I've said lots of times today, clunky. It crashed on me 3 times within half an hour and the friend who bought the thing yesterday has now taken it back whence it came for a refund. She's not a computer user outside of her work and she didn't want something that she had to keep fooling around with to just get working. The sales person who sold her it apparently told her a pack of lies about how good a device it was. Anyway, in summary; Android may be alright for some. But based on what I saw yesterday it isn't for us. As I have said repeatedly I'll have a look at the other devices; I wouldn't want to rule it out totally without checking. But if yesterday's performance was anything to go by, they can keep it as far as I'm concerned, at least for the foreseeable future and, despite all of the known issues, we'll see what comes in iPhone 5. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:36, Chris Moore wrote: Android is too fragmented in my opinion. Too many different versions of the OS out there in the wild. Google don't vet apps before releasing them onto the various app stores leaving them open to viruses and spyware. Google is far inferior when it comes to accessibility compared to the iPhone also. However, I quite like the fact that some Android devices have physical keyboards and have the ability to insert mini SD cards. Android is great if you are a geek and want to play and pull the phone and it's OS apart to configure it to your own taste. I can see the Linux heads going for this. iPhone is the perfect bet if you just want something that works, end of. The iPhone 2G and iPhone 3G (not 3GS) had a superior microphone. The microphone in the 3GS and iPhone 4 are very compressed. However the audio listening quality from the headphone socket is improved in the iPhone 4, but still not as good as a standard iPod. I agree for signal quality Nokia is probably one of the best (depending on which model you compare it to though) but I don't think the iPhone is far behind. Look how many phones Nokia has produced in the last 20+ years to reach that goal, Apple have only produced 5 if you include the CDMA version. 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