Hello Dane Windows Defender is just a very basic basic utility. I wouldn't rely upon it if I were you. Have a look in some of the security forums and you soon learn about this stuff.
Lynne On 9 Oct 2011, at 18:52, Dane Trethowan wrote: I've heard the Microsoft Anti Virus software is very accessible but given what I've written in a previous message I have to ask the question, does Microsoft Defender or whatever its called look out for such things as tracking Cookies and the like? Now I'm not saying the software doesn't but my betting is that it probably doesn't as so many other so-called security suites do not including AVG. but at least AVG Anti Virus do admit that the free version is exactly that, both very free and very basic <smile>, I know people who have upgraded to AVG Pro and they seem to have all the scanning and repair/security tools at their disposal but the only problem is the accessibility of the software I'm told. On 10/10/2011, at 4:07 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Chris > > Let me tell you what puts us off Microsoft's products. They frequently > covertly collect your personal data as in Outlook Express etc. Many people > don't realise what's going on behind the scenes but it's been proven by > security experts, (Steve Gibson, for example), that these free Ms products > are not all people think they are. > > There is an old saying, and it's still true today; you get nothing for > nothing. If a programme in the Windows world is free, and it's released by a > big company such as Microsoft, there' usually; if not always a catch. We have > no intentions of falling into that trap. > > Have you noticed how your email address mysteriously finds its way to > spammers and advertisers? Even though you haven't given it to them yourself, > and you've often never even heard of the company? Well, there's your proof. > People's address book data with Outlook is being covertly collected and > distributed. > > That is why we won't use anything Microsoft and we totally agree with Dane > who wisely opts not to use those product. > > Lynne > > On 9 Oct 2011, at 17:41, chris hallsworth wrote: > > Really? No argument here but I've had absolutely no problems with the free > stuff. Oh well, hope you find a good solution very soon. > > On 09/10/2011 17:36, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> Hi Chris >> >> I'm sorry; I should have made this more clear. We want to stay well away >> from Microsoft add-onds, and we're moving away from Eset Smart Security if >> possible. Eset is fine as far as it goes; but they're quite expensive for >> what it is. >> >> We never go for the free versions of anything, to be honest. There is, we >> find, always a catch with those. And that is perfectly understandable. >> >> Thank you for the suggestions though. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 9 Oct 2011, at 16:06, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >> Ok I would go for Microsoft Security Essentials as your antivirus and >> Malwarebytes Antimalware as your second line of defense. These are both free >> and fully accessible applications. I can't see any other justification apart >> from that. If you want to renew your Eset license, that's fine. But I use >> this combination and they work great. In fact, I have paid for Malwarebytes >> Antimalware Pro simply because of the realtime protection and scheduler >> feature. But this one is up to you. The free version provides on demand >> scanning and updating. Hope this helps. >> >> On 09/10/2011 15:46, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> We are now in the process of setting up a couple of machines running >>> Windows. What do people recommend for system security and antivirus? We've >>> had an Eset Smart Security licence for the last 4 years but is expires >>> later this month and we are trying to decide whether to renew it or go for >>> another solution. >>> >>> Recommendations, suggestions, explanations, justifications, thoughts and >>> opinions welcome. Thank you. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> >>> ======================================= >>> >>> The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free >>> >>> To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web >>> pages located at >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at >>> either of the following websites: >>> >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html >>> >>> Or: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >>> you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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