Hello Martin and all

Don't get me wrong here; this isn't a personal issue regarding anybody and I 
can understand people taking the loopholes that are there. I also don't object 
to sharing our information content. What I object too martin, and possibly your 
comments below are based on a lack of information, is that those wishing to 
view content for which we, the residents of that country, have to pay, 
shouldn't be able to get in via the back door. If they can, then that's not 
their fault and I' not criticising them personally. I might do the same thing. 
So please don't anybody think I'm having a go at anybody personally here.

As I said, I think, Martin, that you may not be aware of the fact that we have 
to pay a license fee to watch this sort of stuff. That license is rigorously 
enforced and breaking the rules leads to a 1 thousand Pound fine, plus a 28 day 
prison sentence and a conviction as a criminal if caught.

The IF signals of the TV or video equipment are used by detector vans with 
specialist equipment which go around at all hours of the day and night. They 
check every street at random times and the vehicles are unmarked; so you can't 
tell when they are there. That fact, the fact that we have to pay for something 
which others are trying to get for free, is the only reason why I am in favour 
of the ban. Some of the other TV channels in the UK have other reasons for 
banning access to their content. And the primary of those is copyright. They 
take out viewing rights agreements with the owners of the content, and the 
production companies who sell it on to the TV stations. Those agreements 
contain copyright clauses which prohibit the TV channels from making their 
content freely available. That, and that only, is the reason why they prohibit 
access to overseas individuals. I've done some checking and actually, the 
network providers of VPN and other access points are themselves liable for 
prosecution it seems if their clients use their facilities to access copyright 
material. I don't know what the situation is regarding the person themselves; 
but my information is that the provider of the services usually makes it quite 
clear to people who subscribe that their agreement is that they don't use the 
service for any illegal activities. Therefore, if the provider is made aware of 
such abuse by the broadcaster or copyright holder, they apparently take a very 
dim view of it and take the appropriate measures. This is only what I'm being 
told; I am no expert.

So again, I would say Martin that you're comments are somewhat idealistic in 
nature. Yes, nice work if you can get it and, if somebody gets away with doing 
it, then fine, I have no problem with that whatsoever. It's not my place to 
enforce the law, nor would I ever dream of trying to tell others what they 
should and shouldn't do. I'm just expressing my personal views that I don't see 
why others should have access free of charge to something for which I have to 
pay almost £200 a year, GBP, to use or access.

Lynne

On 30 Nov 2011, at 14:21, Martin McCormick wrote:

•I am a believer of the statement that information wants to be free. Most 
countries have put their best faces forward
over short wave radio for almost 90 years at great expense to
their tax-paying citizens. In the overall scheme of things, the
expense is miniscule compared with defense, health care in those
countries smart enough to realize that this is the best way to
do things, but it is still a large sum of money for staff
and transmitting facilities to just fling a signal in to the air
in hopes somebody over seas finds it interesting and useful.


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