Chris, Geoff et al I must say I tend to agree with Geoff, but would like to widen the discussion - is a subject change in order? I'm interested in other people's views on an increasing number of 'self-voicing' programs that are coming out. There is great trumpetting when these appear, to the effect that 'no screenreader is required'. Great stuff. But is the reality not that, in order for visually impaired people to use computers efficiently, they at this time DO need a screenreader? Yes, if every single app came out with a self-voicing option for the blind, then screenreaders would be redundant. But that time certainly has not yet arrived. Skype, in my humble view, is accessible enough to make it useable by visually impaired people with screenreaders. I will stop there but would welcome any other views. Dennis.
Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 19 Dec 2011, at 22:59, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not the only one who is having problems as you know yourself <smile>, > under these circumstances "The Gift" as you call it seems like an outright > attention seeking ploy to divert people's attention away from the real > problems of their Screen Reader, Freedom Scientific have given away small > gifts for want of a better description, when I last looked on their site you > could download their Daisy Reader software. > > > On 20/12/2011, at 9:24 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Well, sorry to hear of your problems, but they are a company and they need >> to promote themselves somehow. One way was to give back something for us at >> no charge in time for Christmas. Oh well, if we were all happy life would be >> boring smiles. I agree they should fix Window-Eyes, but just some thoughts >> anyway. >> >> On 19/12/2011 21:47, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Chris, tell GW Micro from me that I'd rather them fix Window-Eyes first >>> than develop what's already out there in the form of accessible Skype >>> software, I'd tell them myself but I just got off their list and I'm >>> absolutely disgusted with that company and the way they're treating their >>> client base right now. >>> >>> >>> On 20/12/2011, at 8:27 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all. >>>> I wish to proudly spread the word about this little gem, released >>>> literally hours ago. It provides an alternative, accessible user interface >>>> to the Skype service and is developed by the makers of Window-Eyes, GW >>>> Micro. The interesting thing is that you do not need to be a Window-Eyes >>>> customer, nor do you need to use Window-Eyes at all, with this program. >>>> Any screen reader, or no screen reader at all, will work with this >>>> program. 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