I beg to differ about your assumption that I’m turning this into a personal argument and as far as I’m concerned there’s no argument - even though you like to think there is. You’ve answered some of my questions, you made statements earlier on in the piece that you were having trouble downloading the documentation and manuals so I’m pleased you finally found them. Again I say for the 43rd time <smile> if you’re happy with what you have then fine but A samsung, Sanyo, Panasonic, Phillips etc I myself would have stayed well away from. Yep, I like my Audiophile products but that’s just me and what I have isn’t going to satisfy everyone else out there. I have a Surround-Sound receiver and not yet a sound bar, I would never consider a sound bar in my lounge. Soundbars are not true surround sound though for lots of people they’re good enough. As far as technology goes - if you wish to discuss that aspect - then your system is probably ahead of mine, I bought my Denon AVR2113 in 2013 and already the model was a year old and the AVR2113 has long since been discontinued. I also like to ponder what company’s are known for and what they’re not. Denon, Marantz, Onkyo amongst others are known for producing fine audio products whereas Samsung are known more for their TV’S, Phones and so on, go pick up a Hi-Fi magazine full of reviews for audio products and see if you find a mention of Samsung <smile> so I drift towards those brands or company’s that have a reputation for their products. Having said that of course, things will change in time. I heard of the charm of Samsung giving an address some time ago and he stated that what Samsung needed was a good reputation and good name in the audio world an he was determined that his company should get a mention when audio products were reviewed, Samsung have thus therefore partnered with a lot of audio research labs and the like and I sincerely hope that the whole project bares fruit and their audio products turn out as well as their TV’S and phones, that’s a scenario for the future and this is now. So enjoy your Soundbar and - by the end of the year - I hope to be enjoying my Yamaha in the den den, I’ll still be enjoying my Denon in the lounge.
> On 24 Sep. 2016, at 8:50 pm, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > Unfortunately, somehow, My device has swallowed up your response here. So > I'll comment from memory on what you said. > > Why, oh why? Why does this always happen? It's not a personal issue. We're > discussing technology. It isn't an argument, It's a discussion. So let's try > to keep that in mind. > > You still didn't answer the question?ough. You keep telling us what your > receiver will do, and that's fine. But so far, I've heard absolutely nothing > to make me even question my choice. My bar is actually one of the hi?-end > bars to which you refer. When I bought it, I looked at the specs of lots of > different bars from lots of manufacturers. I looked at, and dismissed out of > hand, a couple of Panasonic systems. I looked at some Prillips bars, Sony, > Sanio, and even some lesser specification Samsung. But ultimately, I settled > on the one I have now, and I'm more than happy with it. > > It supports the Samsung "Near-by" connection system, as well as Bluetooth 4.0 > technologies, WPS and the new standard of auto-configuration Wi-Fi, (whose > name I forget right now), plus, of course, Giganet LAN and Wireless-N. > > In terms of outputs and inputs, it has dual in and out Tosslink support, plus > an Opticle input. > > I grant you that accessibility could be better regarding internal settings, > but there may be an app available to compensate for that, I haven't looked > yet. > > But documentation, I have all of the relevant data here, and yes, I have > applied a firmware update to it. That, in actual fact, is quite simple. All > you have to do is to put the file on the reot of a USB drive, plug it into > the bar and let it do it. From that postt onwards it was totally automated. > > Regarding network, yes, it's integrated, Although to be totally fair, I don't > know whether you can stream from it via Wi-Fi. Certainly you can play content > to it, and have it streamed to the tv or to a secondary audio output as > described earlier. > > It is true that an HTML interface would be nice, no dispute at all with that > point. I think also that it's important to remember that one man's meat is > another man's poison. Your Dennon crearly does what you want it to do for > you, and that's as it should be. But I think the term "Better" is a very > subjective one. I think that, in my situation, my system suits my needs denn > to the ground, and I'm very happy with it. > > Regarding the Panasonic systems, I'm not sure whccther the talking systems > are available outside of the UK. Maybe they are. But I came away distinctly > unimpressed when I went to that demo. Changing channels, for example, it took > about 5 seconds after the change for the spoken information to become > available, despite it having be- there visally for some three or four > seconds. That may not sound a lot to some. But imagine surfing channels. Just > imagine how long that would take. Even the older PVR machine I have here is > faster than that, and that's saying something! > > When I access a HDMI sourse on any of my TV's four HDMI inputs, it is passed > to the sound bar right away, no sbuggishness at all. No, of course, That's > not at all the same as the Panasonic generating speech, different topic now. > > Regarding my mention of Airfoil, yes you're correct that airpay has been > supported from at least the second generation AppleTV. And yes, you're > totally correct that the principles of the AppleTV are totally different now. > They effectively work like any other iTunes-enabled device would work these > days. And yes, I confess to being quite impressed. Gone, for instance, is the > stustering Alex voice on the new model. VoiceOver also works the same as does > it on any other device. It uses the voice appropriate to your language and > region. The remote control supports gestures as well as SIRI. And again, That > works the same as does the modern iPad. In fact, if you have an iPad on thr > network, you can have the ApfleTV dennload and use its settings when you > first power up the unit, if there's a qualifying iOS device available. So it > takes your Apple ID and your Wi-Fi settings and applies them to the AppleTV. > Quite good in an automated situation, but problematic in the case of a static > (or non-NAT) situation. In those cases, you neeed to use the manual setup > mode. But once you have the network and the Apfle ID configured, then she > rocks! > > My only reason for mentioning AirFoil was to demonstrate to those who don't > know what we're talking about when we talk about AilPlay that they serve > similar purposes. Actuually, I still cannot remember whether AilFoil supports > video content these days, or just audio. It's been a long time since I tried > it. > > OK, so all the said, I don't for a moment disagree with, or dispute what > you're saying about your system. After all, I don't own one and haven't tried > one, so it would be wrong of me to make assumptionsddAll I can say is that my > system performs well for me. In fact it's playing me soft music even as I > write. I'm very happy with it, although I must look to see whether there's a > Not apf to enhance the experience. But I'm very glad that I didn't yield to > the pressures that some people in my family put on me when I bought it. I'm > very glad I didn't by one of the Panasonic talking systems. They're fine, for > example, for elderly people who probably don't want all the bells and > whistles. I actually know somebody like that, and she's more than happy with > hers. Maybe for her, those few secunds don't matter when she presses a > button. But I found the delay between butson pressing and response time just > too great. > > All that said, I still think that manufacturers should be applauded for at > least trying to make things like that accessible. Maybe in years to come, or > on future models, they may improve upon where they are now. Maybe in years to > come we'll all be looking at them, because they've fixed all these bugs. > > > ============================== > > My Compliments And Kindest Regards > Gordon Smith > 'Accessibility And Information Technology Support Specialist > ------------------------------ ********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
