Play nicely boys, it is starting to sound like who has the biggest willy contest!
Sound bars have come on a long way, they are affordable, convenient, simple to setup and offer superior sound to the tiny speakers you get inside TVs these days. I went down the Sony route and the sound quality meets my needs, and the sub woofer packs a punch. My parents have the latest Samsung and it sounds impressive too. Of course, they can’t compete with a full surround setup, but in my opinion those things are ugly, take up too much space and the wires would drive me mad. Plus, I would not get the full benefit of the high end sound, as the output would only be as good as the hearing aids i am listening to them through. Chris > On 24 Sep 2016, at 19:55, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > > I beg to differ about your assumption that I’m turning this into a personal > argument and as far as I’m concerned there’s no argument - even though you > like to think there is. > You’ve answered some of my questions, you made statements earlier on in the > piece that you were having trouble downloading the documentation and manuals > so I’m pleased you finally found them. > Again I say for the 43rd time <smile> if you’re happy with what you have then > fine but A samsung, Sanyo, Panasonic, Phillips etc I myself would have stayed > well away from. > Yep, I like my Audiophile products but that’s just me and what I have isn’t > going to satisfy everyone else out there. > I have a Surround-Sound receiver and not yet a sound bar, I would never > consider a sound bar in my lounge. > Soundbars are not true surround sound though for lots of people they’re good > enough. > As far as technology goes - if you wish to discuss that aspect - then your > system is probably ahead of mine, I bought my Denon AVR2113 in 2013 and > already the model was a year old and the AVR2113 has long since been > discontinued. > I also like to ponder what company’s are known for and what they’re not. > Denon, Marantz, Onkyo amongst others are known for producing fine audio > products whereas Samsung are known more for their TV’S, Phones and so on, go > pick up a Hi-Fi magazine full of reviews for audio products and see if you > find a mention of Samsung <smile> so I drift towards those brands or > company’s that have a reputation for their products. > Having said that of course, things will change in time. > I heard of the charm of Samsung giving an address some time ago and he stated > that what Samsung needed was a good reputation and good name in the audio > world an he was determined that his company should get a mention when audio > products were reviewed, Samsung have thus therefore partnered with a lot of > audio research labs and the like and I sincerely hope that the whole project > bares fruit and their audio products turn out as well as their TV’S and > phones, that’s a scenario for the future and this is now. > So enjoy your Soundbar and - by the end of the year - I hope to be enjoying > my Yamaha in the den den, I’ll still be enjoying my Denon in the lounge. > >> On 24 Sep. 2016, at 8:50 pm, Gordon Smith <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, somehow, My device has swallowed up your response here. So >> I'll comment from memory on what you said. >> >> Why, oh why? Why does this always happen? It's not a personal issue. We're >> discussing technology. It isn't an argument, It's a discussion. So let's try >> to keep that in mind. >> >> You still didn't answer the question?ough. You keep telling us what your >> receiver will do, and that's fine. But so far, I've heard absolutely nothing >> to make me even question my choice. My bar is actually one of the hi?-end >> bars to which you refer. When I bought it, I looked at the specs of lots of >> different bars from lots of manufacturers. I looked at, and dismissed out of >> hand, a couple of Panasonic systems. I looked at some Prillips bars, Sony, >> Sanio, and even some lesser specification Samsung. But ultimately, I settled >> on the one I have now, and I'm more than happy with it. >> >> It supports the Samsung "Near-by" connection system, as well as Bluetooth >> 4.0 technologies, WPS and the new standard of auto-configuration Wi-Fi, >> (whose name I forget right now), plus, of course, Giganet LAN and Wireless-N. >> >> In terms of outputs and inputs, it has dual in and out Tosslink support, >> plus an Opticle input. >> >> I grant you that accessibility could be better regarding internal settings, >> but there may be an app available to compensate for that, I haven't looked >> yet. >> >> But documentation, I have all of the relevant data here, and yes, I have >> applied a firmware update to it. That, in actual fact, is quite simple. All >> you have to do is to put the file on the reot of a USB drive, plug it into >> the bar and let it do it. From that postt onwards it was totally automated. >> >> Regarding network, yes, it's integrated, Although to be totally fair, I >> don't know whether you can stream from it via Wi-Fi. Certainly you can play >> content to it, and have it streamed to the tv or to a secondary audio output >> as described earlier. >> >> It is true that an HTML interface would be nice, no dispute at all with that >> point. I think also that it's important to remember that one man's meat is >> another man's poison. Your Dennon crearly does what you want it to do for >> you, and that's as it should be. But I think the term "Better" is a very >> subjective one. I think that, in my situation, my system suits my needs denn >> to the ground, and I'm very happy with it. >> >> Regarding the Panasonic systems, I'm not sure whccther the talking systems >> are available outside of the UK. Maybe they are. But I came away distinctly >> unimpressed when I went to that demo. Changing channels, for example, it >> took about 5 seconds after the change for the spoken information to become >> available, despite it having be- there visally for some three or four >> seconds. That may not sound a lot to some. But imagine surfing channels. >> Just imagine how long that would take. Even the older PVR machine I have >> here is faster than that, and that's saying something! >> >> When I access a HDMI sourse on any of my TV's four HDMI inputs, it is passed >> to the sound bar right away, no sbuggishness at all. No, of course, That's >> not at all the same as the Panasonic generating speech, different topic now. >> >> Regarding my mention of Airfoil, yes you're correct that airpay has been >> supported from at least the second generation AppleTV. And yes, you're >> totally correct that the principles of the AppleTV are totally different >> now. They effectively work like any other iTunes-enabled device would work >> these days. And yes, I confess to being quite impressed. Gone, for instance, >> is the stustering Alex voice on the new model. VoiceOver also works the same >> as does it on any other device. It uses the voice appropriate to your >> language and region. The remote control supports gestures as well as SIRI. >> And again, That works the same as does the modern iPad. In fact, if you have >> an iPad on thr network, you can have the ApfleTV dennload and use its >> settings when you first power up the unit, if there's a qualifying iOS >> device available. So it takes your Apple ID and your Wi-Fi settings and >> applies them to the AppleTV. Quite good in an automated situation, but >> problematic in the case of a static (or non-NAT) situation. In those cases, >> you neeed to use the manual setup mode. But once you have the network and >> the Apfle ID configured, then she rocks! >> >> My only reason for mentioning AirFoil was to demonstrate to those who don't >> know what we're talking about when we talk about AilPlay that they serve >> similar purposes. Actuually, I still cannot remember whether AilFoil >> supports video content these days, or just audio. It's been a long time >> since I tried it. >> >> OK, so all the said, I don't for a moment disagree with, or dispute what >> you're saying about your system. After all, I don't own one and haven't >> tried one, so it would be wrong of me to make assumptionsddAll I can say is >> that my system performs well for me. In fact it's playing me soft music even >> as I write. I'm very happy with it, although I must look to see whether >> there's a Not apf to enhance the experience. But I'm very glad that I didn't >> yield to the pressures that some people in my family put on me when I bought >> it. I'm very glad I didn't by one of the Panasonic talking systems. They're >> fine, for example, for elderly people who probably don't want all the bells >> and whistles. I actually know somebody like that, and she's more than happy >> with hers. Maybe for her, those few secunds don't matter when she presses a >> button. But I found the delay between butson pressing and response time just >> too great. >> >> All that said, I still think that manufacturers should be applauded for at >> least trying to make things like that accessible. Maybe in years to come, or >> on future models, they may improve upon where they are now. Maybe in years >> to come we'll all be looking at them, because they've fixed all these bugs. >> >> >> ============================== >> >> My Compliments And Kindest Regards >> Gordon Smith >> 'Accessibility And Information Technology Support Specialist >> ------------------------------ > > ********** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > >
