I sympathise with the financial aspect.  The rent situation sound appalling for 
you. In the UK many/most Blind People can access a benefit call Personal 
Independenc Payment used to be called Disability Living Allowance which is 
designed to help us meet these sorts of costs. I realise that this sort of 
benefit will not be available everywhere.
I support accessible  mainstream but whilst this has massive benefits it also 
has issues. People who want/need devices with tactile buttons are being driven 
into the margins alongside the companies which are struggling to provide the 
specialist kit.
The advances in NVDA Narrator and Voiceover ALLIED TO Talkback and Chrome vox 
on several platforms  has  placed the commercial Screen Reader companies under 
enormous pressure. I support all of this but the paradox is that I still want 
Jaws as it can do stuff that the free options cannot.
I am not sure what can be done about it but the advance of accessibility in the 
Mainstream has placed the Niche manufacturers who try to meet the needs of 
those uncomfortable with touch screen technology, or in the case of someone 
like me who simply finds it nicer to use buttons, under severe pressure.
I am dismayed by the number of Specialist companies  who appear to be going to 
the wall or sinking without trace over the last year or two. The people who 
make the Vaio  Braille Displays have apparently gone bust recently.  Window 
Eyes is no more having been swallowed up by VFO who entirely predictably have 
ditched it, as they soon will ditch Magic. Companies like Code Factory whilst 
still going seem to have a void in their customer support which does not augur 
well for their future. The Plextalk Daisy and Pocket devices, whilst not 
apparently fomally inlliquidation have been quietly wound up with no sign of 
any replacement devices under development.
It is no surprise then that the niche manaufacturers are having to charge 
exrtra to meet their costs given their shrinking market base. 
The Kapsys Smart Phone with buttons for example in the UK  is costing £499 
without kapsys Software and £599 with Software which is expensive when all is 
said and doen for an Android 6 phone with 16GB of memory. Yet despite its cost 
it is now the only option for my sister to buy now as she is completely unable 
to cope with a touch screen.  If Kapsys did not exist she would have no option.
The other approach is those even more niche companies  who charge an absolute 
fortune for devices like the Orcam which make Humanware products seem cheap by 
comparison.
So personally I am glad that Humanware for the time being are  managing to 
resist the pressure to liquidate that other VI Companies are suffering and more 
importantly are bucking the trend by continuing to develop products.
We who like buttons have at least a chance for the time being.
David Griffith



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From: The wolf
Sent: 09 November 2017 02:22
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Humanware - Victor Reader Trek – talking book 
player & GPS - Victor Reader Talking Book Players (Stream & Stratus) - 
Blindness - Low Vision Aids for Macular Degeneration

as long as the voc rehab agencies continue too purchase these devices 
there are going to be priced really high

pritty much 99.99999 percent of blind people don't even make a income to 
aford these high end devices myself included

700.00 a month is my total income 581 of that money pays the rent

the rest has to cover everything utilities food for my guide dog the 
basic needs

thank god fore food stamps.

so the voc rehab agencies are getting them fore the clients
when all the funding dries up from the agencies it is going to  be 
really interesting to see what companies end up by going out of business.
I understand that this is a nitch market
but these AT companies can only do this fore so long
On 11/8/2017 7:11 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> Its tipical Humanware though really isn't it? Late to the party yet 
> again.
>
> There is a segment of the population that can't access an IOS or 
> Android device so perhaps Humanware's device may be useful for those 
> people.
>
> What's the betting too that this device is using out of date hardware?
>
>
>
> On 11/9/2017 5:47 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>> Hello everybody
>>
>> Sadly, HumanWare has put their device beyond the reach of many, yet 
>> again. And not only that, but they’ve made it an untenable product, 
>> in my view. Everything it does, you can do via iOS and Android. That 
>> includes playing talking books and, I’m pretty sure, DAISY content.
>>
>> Given that the main stream devices have so much more to offer than 
>> simply being a book player and a GPS navigator, I don’t really think 
>> they’re on to a winner this time.
>>
>> Sure, the functionality is easy to use, and accessible. But then 
>> again, most people would find it just as easy to use a smart phone 
>> with GPS, and something to the tune of the Seeing Eye, (RNIB) Navigator.
>>
>> But make up your own minds. I’m just expressing my humble opinion as 
>> somebody who is looking to start advising clients on this sort of 
>> ting professionally. My take on this is, sadly, it won’t last long.
>>
>>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>>>  
>>> <http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>> ========================================
>>
>> My compliments and kindest regards
>> Gordon Smith:
>> <[email protected]>
>> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist..
>>
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