I’ve given this some thought for the major part of the afternoon, I’m surprised 
that Humanware etc haven’t released something that is voice activated like say 
an Amazon Echo version of a Victor Reader stream.


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> On 9 Nov 2017, at 4:20 pm, david griffith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I sympathise with the financial aspect.  The rent situation sound appalling 
> for you. In the UK many/most Blind People can access a benefit call Personal 
> Independenc Payment used to be called Disability Living Allowance which is 
> designed to help us meet these sorts of costs. I realise that this sort of 
> benefit will not be available everywhere.
> I support accessible  mainstream but whilst this has massive benefits it also 
> has issues. People who want/need devices with tactile buttons are being 
> driven into the margins alongside the companies which are struggling to 
> provide the specialist kit.
> The advances in NVDA Narrator and Voiceover ALLIED TO Talkback and Chrome vox 
> on several platforms  has  placed the commercial Screen Reader companies 
> under enormous pressure. I support all of this but the paradox is that I 
> still want Jaws as it can do stuff that the free options cannot.
> I am not sure what can be done about it but the advance of accessibility in 
> the Mainstream has placed the Niche manufacturers who try to meet the needs 
> of those uncomfortable with touch screen technology, or in the case of 
> someone like me who simply finds it nicer to use buttons, under severe 
> pressure.
> I am dismayed by the number of Specialist companies  who appear to be going 
> to the wall or sinking without trace over the last year or two. The people 
> who make the Vaio  Braille Displays have apparently gone bust recently.  
> Window Eyes is no more having been swallowed up by VFO who entirely 
> predictably have ditched it, as they soon will ditch Magic. Companies like 
> Code Factory whilst still going seem to have a void in their customer support 
> which does not augur well for their future. The Plextalk Daisy and Pocket 
> devices, whilst not apparently fomally inlliquidation have been quietly wound 
> up with no sign of any replacement devices under development.
> It is no surprise then that the niche manaufacturers are having to charge 
> exrtra to meet their costs given their shrinking market base.. 
> The Kapsys Smart Phone with buttons for example in the UK  is costing £499 
> without kapsys Software and £599 with Software which is expensive when all is 
> said and doen for an Android 6 phone with 16GB of memory. Yet despite its 
> cost it is now the only option for my sister to buy now as she is completely 
> unable to cope with a touch screen.  If Kapsys did not exist she would have 
> no option.
> The other approach is those even more niche companies  who charge an absolute 
> fortune for devices like the Orcam which make Humanware products seem cheap 
> by comparison.
> So personally I am glad that Humanware for the time being are  managing to 
> resist the pressure to liquidate that other VI Companies are suffering and 
> more importantly are bucking the trend by continuing to develop products.
> We who like buttons have at least a chance for the time being..
> David Griffith
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> From: The wolf <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: 09 November 2017 02:22
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Humanware - Victor Reader Trek – talking book 
> player & GPS - Victor Reader Talking Book Players (Stream & Stratus) - 
> Blindness - Low Vision Aids for Macular Degeneration
>  
> as long as the voc rehab agencies continue too purchase these devices 
> there are going to be priced really high
>  
> pritty much 99.99999 percent of blind people don't even make a income to
> aford these high end devices myself included
>  
> 700.00 a month is my total income 581 of that money pays the rent
>  
> the rest has to cover everything utilities food for my guide dog the
> basic needs
>  
> thank god fore food stamps.
>  
> so the voc rehab agencies are getting them fore the clients
> when all the funding dries up from the agencies it is going to  be
> really interesting to see what companies end up by going out of business.
> I understand that this is a nitch market
> but these AT companies can only do this fore so long
> On 11/8/2017 7:11 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> > Its tipical Humanware though really isn't it? Late to the party yet
> > again.
> > 
> > There is a segment of the population that can't access an IOS or
> > Android device so perhaps Humanware's device may be useful for those
> > people.
> > 
> > What's the betting too that this device is using out of date hardware?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/9/2017 5:47 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
> >> Hello everybody
> >> 
> >> Sadly, HumanWare has put their device beyond the reach of many, yet
> >> again. And not only that, but they’ve made it an untenable product,
> >> in my view. Everything it does, you can do via iOS and Android. That
> >> includes playing talking books and, I’m pretty sure, DAISY content.
> >> 
> >> Given that the main stream devices have so much more to offer than
> >> simply being a book player and a GPS navigator, I don’t really think
> >> they’re on to a winner this time.
> >> 
> >> Sure, the functionality is easy to use, and accessible. But then
> >> again, most people would find it just as easy to use a smart phone
> >> with GPS, and something to the tune of the Seeing Eye, (RNIB) Navigator.
> >> 
> >> But make up your own minds. I’m just expressing my humble opinion as
> >> somebody who is looking to start advising clients on this sort of
> >> ting professionally. My take on this is, sadly, it won’t last long.
> >> 
> >>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
> >>>  
> >>> <http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html>
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> >>> <http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html>>
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> >> Gordon Smith:
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