I don’t know about the smaller but the 12 inch certainly can get very warm when 
you’re doing serious multi tasking.
There’s a fan in the machine which does take the heat out through vents at the 
top of the tablet.


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the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”




> On 17 Nov 2017, at 11:48 pm, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I would imagine that heat dispersal is one of the major issues with the 
> smaller model, regarding the processor. I’ll have to think hard before I jump 
> into this market.
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> On 16 Nov 2017, at 20:10, Dane Trethowan <[email protected] 
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> The LTE version is the one I have.
> Also bare in mind that the Specs of the smaller Galaxy Book vary considerably 
> to that of the large,  with the large you get a 256GB SSD and an Intel I5 
> Processor whereas with the smaller you get a 128GB SSD and Intel I3 processor.
> I’m wondering if the keyboard is the same with the smaller version? I wonder 
> this for the obvious reason size, the keyboard would have to be smaller so 
> what’s been sacrificed.
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>> On 17 Nov 2017, at 3:03 am, Gordon Smith <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> No! The Galaxy Book sells for £699.00 for the 10.6-Inch version and £899.00 
>> for the 12-Inch. I’m not sure how much the LTE-enabled versions go for, I’ll 
>> check.
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>> On 16 Nov 2017, at 15:41, Dane Trethowan <[email protected] 
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>> 
>> I can't be sure of that as I don't know the conversion rate from pounds to 
>> Australian dollars but I think it would be near the mark yep.
>> 
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>> 
>> On 11/17/2017 1:07 AM, david griffith wrote:
>>> Wow – I have just looked on Amazon and the price for that Tablet appears to 
>>> be £1,400 – does that sound right?
>>> David Griffith
>>>  
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>>> From: Dane Trethowan <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Sent: 15 November 2017 21:46
>>> To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Tablet Computing
>>>  
>>> The Samsung tablet in question is the Samsung Galaxy Book 12, its a higher 
>>> spec and more powerful machine than the Tab and I think its more recent too.
>>>  
>>> 
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>>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you 
>>> put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 16 Nov 2017, at 4:01 am, David Griffith <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> OK glad to be contradicted.
>>> I looked up the Samsung 12 on UK Amazon.
>>> Is it this one on the UK Store ?
>>> http://tinyurl.com/y8ml9a9o <http://tinyurl.com/y8ml9a9o>
>>> In my defence it does not scream out a sim card in its  specification 
>>> though I did notice a description of 4G WiFi on its description.
>>> The main issue I think is that at over £700 including delivery It is 
>>> significantly more expensive than the tablets I was looking at – about 
>>> twice the cost of other PC tablet machines and nearly 3 times as much as 
>>> the Asus Chrome Books and 6 times as much as some of the Kindle options. 
>>> Even my sim based 64gb iPad was only £450, admittedly a few years ago now.  
>>> so I am probably looking at the wrong end  of the market.  I am not at all 
>>> sure I want to pay over £700 for  a tablet I am only going to use 
>>> occasionally whilst out  or on holiday. My main Desktop  machine with 16 GB 
>>> ram, 512 GB SSD main drive with 4TB secondary drive  which I used every 
>>> single day only cost me £550 ,  with Windows and Office though it was 
>>> custom built by an engineer I know.  If I could find a cheaper Tablet 
>>> option like a Chrome Book at about £250 with a sim slot I would go for it 
>>> like a shot.
>>> David Griffith
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] 
>>> Sent: 15 November 2017 15:28
>>> To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!
>>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Tablet Computing
>>>  
>>> I’m sorry to contradict you but all the devices we have been talking about 
>>> - including my Samsung Galaxy Book 12 Windows Tablet - do allow for SIM 
>>> card data thus they are totally portable so use on a mountain top, park 
>>> bench or in a cafe, the choice is yours.
>>> Actually the use of SIM cards in modern day computing goes deeper and runs 
>>> wider than I possibly thought, my New HP Probook 404 G3 can also take a SIM 
>>> card.
>>> Many of the Android tablets out there naturally take a SIM card too though 
>>> - as I said earlier - at present I don’t believe the current crop of 
>>> Android tablets are anywhere near up to speed when it comes to Windows or 
>>> IOS offerings, even the build isn’t as good.
>>> Will that change? I sincerely hope so but its taking a long time.
>>>  
>>> 
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>>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you 
>>> put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 16 Nov 2017, at 2:00 am, David Griffith <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> The biggest and surprising failing for nearly all of the Android / Kindle / 
>>> windows Tablet options out there  I see is the failure to include a Sim 
>>> option for genuinely mobile computing. WiFi devices may be feasible for use 
>>> in cities but quickly grind to a halt  when travelling or when you are in a 
>>> cottage in the country which does not have WiFi. I find this extremely  odd 
>>> as it is precisely when  I am away from home and in this situation away 
>>> from WiFi that I am most likely to need to use these sorts of devices.  If 
>>> they are portable devices they should in my mind be most useful if they can 
>>> be used wherever  there is a mobile signal rather than reliant on clumsily 
>>> piggy backing on somebody else’s WiFi.
>>> I started looking at chrome Books but no mobile sim  options I can find, 
>>> similarly for Windows tablets Kindle tablets and most Android tablets. This 
>>> is the strangest lack I find in the  mobile tablet sector at the moment. 
>>> You could cobble solutions together I suppose by using Dongles or tethering 
>>> but elegant this is not.
>>> In these situations only my iPhone and my old iPad   Mini with data sim cut 
>>> the mustard and provide some web connectivity for me. People are often 
>>> surprised that my old iPad can connect to the web anywhere but this is old 
>>> not new technology. In ancient times  of early Kindle  Keyboard models you 
>>> could use a data sim but bizarrely no more as Amazon has completely 
>>> withdrawn data sim options for Kindle and they are all WiFi only now. As 
>>> useful as a choclate teapot on a motorway or in a country cottage without 
>>> WiFi.
>>> If anybody can point me to a newer genuinely portable device with this 
>>> functionality I would be interested.
>>> David Griffith 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] 
>>> Sent: 14 November 2017 21:15
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [Techno-Chat]: Tablet Computing
>>>  
>>> Firstly the Samsung Galaxy Books are Windows based tablets so if you 
>>> purchase a Galaxy Book you're literally purchasing yourself a mini Windows 
>>> 10 Pro machine, nothing wrong with that whatever.
>>> I was asked what I thought the best Android tablet was.
>>> Only my opinion of course but I don't think there's any best Android tablet 
>>> right now and I'm astonished that I'm making such remarks as there very 
>>> clearly should be some very good Android tables around but for some reason 
>>> there isn't.
>>> When it comes to build the iPad range are tops, I've not yet seen an 
>>> Android tablet come even close.
>>> When it comes to Power the iPad keeps moving ahead.
>>> So we have the iPad but then that's not everything that people may demand 
>>> from a tablet, yes its powerful but perhaps not versatile enough and that's 
>>> where a good Android tablet should be in its element but no, not yet, the 
>>> only alternative then is a Windows tablet such as the Galaxy Book.
>>> The Galaxy Book isn't quite as well built as an iPad but its a tough build 
>>> all the same as all modern Samsung phones and tablets seem to be thus 
>>> should last you hears to come.
>>> I'm working on a series of audio demos for the Samsung Galaxy Book 12 at 
>>> the moment and will release them shortly.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On 11/15/2017 7:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>>> The latest model is called the PixelBook. The main advantage is that there 
>>> is now full 100% Android app support built-in which means, of course, that 
>>> you can install TalkBack and BrailleBack. Specs look quite good, although I 
>>> still think that the Samsung Galaxy Books, based on what I’ve read and what 
>>> I’ve been told, offer a better alternative. 
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>>> On 10 Nov 2017, at 10:14, Joshua Gregory <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I'll have to take a look at that, thank you!
>>> On
>>> Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 12:07 AM Dane Trethowan <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> No first hand experience hereas yet.
>>> I've thought about getting a Chromebook to look at and I do know someone
>>> who uses a Chromebook fulltime, he's totally blind and loves it, he came
>>> from using an Apple Mac Mini and Voiceover.
>>> Further to this, may I suggest you look up the AFB Access World magazine.
>>> There you'll find a series of reviews and articles that have tracked the
>>> Chromebook and the Screen Reading technology.
>>> 
>>> On 11/10/2017 1:34 PM, Joshua Gregory wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello,
>>> > I was wondering if anybody has had any experiences with Chromebooks
>>> > and the chromevox screen reader. What were your experiences? Did you
>>> > like it, did you not? Was there anything that stood out to you in
>>> > comparison to, say, windows and nvda or narrator? Thanks very much!
>>> >
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