I can't be sure of that as I don't know the conversion rate from pounds to Australian dollars but I think it would be near the mark yep.


On 11/17/2017 1:07 AM, david griffith wrote:

Wow – I have just looked on Amazon and the price for that Tablet appears to be £1,400 – does that sound right?

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*From: *Dane Trethowan <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>
*Sent: *15 November 2017 21:46
*To: *Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! <mailto:techno-chat@techno-chat.net>
*Subject: *Re: [Techno-Chat]: Tablet Computing

The Samsung tablet in question is the Samsung Galaxy Book 12, its a higher spec and more powerful machine than the Tab and I think its more recent too.


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    On 16 Nov 2017, at 4:01 am, David Griffith
    <d.griff...@btinternet.com <mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com>> wrote:

    OK glad to be contradicted.

    I looked up the Samsung 12 on UK Amazon.

    Is it this one on the UK Store ?

    http://tinyurl.com/y8ml9a9o

    In my defence it does not scream out a sim card in its 
    specification though I did notice a description of 4G WiFi on its
    description.

    The main issue I think is that at over £700 including delivery It
    is significantly more expensive than the tablets I was looking at
    – about twice the cost of other PC tablet machines and nearly 3
    times as much as the Asus Chrome Books and 6 times as much as some
    of the Kindle options. Even my sim based 64gb iPad was only £450,
    admittedly a few years ago now.  so I am probably looking at the
    wrong end  of the market.  I am not at all sure I want to pay over
    £700 for  a tablet I am only going to use occasionally whilst out
     or on holiday. My main Desktop  machine with 16 GB ram, 512 GB
    SSD main drive with 4TB secondary drive  which I used every single
    day only cost me £550 ,  with Windows and Office though it was
    custom built by an engineer I know.  If I could find a cheaper
    Tablet option like a Chrome Book at about £250 with a sim slot I
    would go for it like a shot.

    David Griffith

    *From:*Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode..on.net
    <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>]
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    *To:*Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!
    *Subject:*Re: [Techno-Chat]: Tablet Computing

    I’m sorry to contradict you but all the devices we have been
    talking about - including my Samsung Galaxy Book 12 Windows Tablet
    - do allow for SIM card data thus they are totally portable so use
    on a mountain top, park bench or in a cafe, the choice is yours.

    Actually the use of SIM cards in modern day computing goes deeper
    and runs wider than I possibly thought, my New HP Probook 404 G3
    can also take a SIM card.

    Many of the Android tablets out there naturally take a SIM card
    too though - as I said earlier - at present I don’t believe the
    current crop of Android tablets are anywhere near up to speed when
    it comes to Windows or IOS offerings, even the build isn’t as good.

    Will that change? I sincerely hope so but its taking a long time.


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    On 16 Nov 2017, at 2:00 am, David Griffith
    <d.griff...@btinternet.com <mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com>> wrote:

    The biggest and surprising failing for nearly all of the Android /
    Kindle / windows Tablet options out there  I see is the failure to
    include a Sim option for genuinely mobile computing. WiFi devices
    may be feasible for use in cities but quickly grind to a halt 
    when travelling or when you are in a cottage in the country which
    does not have WiFi. I find this extremely  odd as it is precisely
    when  I am away from home and in this situation away from WiFi
    that I am most likely to need to use these sorts of devices.  If
    they are portable devices they should in my mind be most useful if
    they can be used wherever  there is a mobile signal rather than
    reliant on clumsily piggy backing on somebody else’s WiFi.

    I started looking at chrome Books but no mobile sim  options I can
    find, similarly for Windows tablets Kindle tablets and most
    Android tablets. This is the strangest lack I find in the  mobile
    tablet sector at the moment. You could cobble solutions together I
    suppose by using Dongles or tethering but elegant this is not.

    In these situations only my iPhone and my old iPad   Mini with
    data sim cut the mustard and provide some web connectivity for me.
    People are often surprised that my old iPad can connect to the web
    anywhere but this is old not new technology. In ancient times  of
    early Kindle  Keyboard models you could use a data sim but
    bizarrely no more as Amazon has completely withdrawn data sim
    options for Kindle and they are all WiFi only now. As useful as a
    choclate teapot on a motorway or in a country cottage without WiFi.

    If anybody can point me to a newer genuinely portable device with
    this functionality I would be interested.

    David Griffith

    *From:*Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net]
    *Sent:*14 November 2017 21:15
    *To:*techno-chat@techno-chat.net <mailto:techno-chat@techno-chat.net>
    *Subject:*[Techno-Chat]: Tablet Computing

    Firstly the Samsung Galaxy Books are Windows based tablets so if
    you purchase a Galaxy Book you're literally purchasing yourself a
    mini Windows 10 Pro machine, nothing wrong with that whatever.

    I was asked what I thought the best Android tablet was.

    Only my opinion of course but I don't think there's any best
    Android tablet right now and I'm astonished that I'm making such
    remarks as there very clearly should be some very good Android
    tables around but for some reason there isn't.

    When it comes to build the iPad range are tops, I've not yet seen
    an Android tablet come even close.

    When it comes to Power the iPad keeps moving ahead.

    So we have the iPad but then that's not everything that people may
    demand from a tablet, yes its powerful but perhaps not versatile
    enough and that's where a good Android tablet should be in its
    element but no, not yet, the only alternative then is a Windows
    tablet such as the Galaxy Book.

    The Galaxy Book isn't quite as well built as an iPad but its a
    tough build all the same as all modern Samsung phones and tablets
    seem to be thus should last you hears to come.

    I'm working on a series of audio demos for the Samsung Galaxy Book
    12 at the moment and will release them shortly.

    On 11/15/2017 7:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

        The latest model is called the PixelBook. The main advantage
        is that there is now full 100% Android app support built-in
        which means, of course, that you can install TalkBack and
        BrailleBack. Specs look quite good, although I still think
        that the Samsung Galaxy Books, based on what I’ve read and
        what I’ve been told, offer a better alternative.

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        On 10 Nov 2017, at 10:14, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com
        <mailto:joshtg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        I'll have to take a look at that, thank you!

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        Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 12:07 AM Dane Trethowan
        <grtd...@internode.on.net <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>>
        wrote:

            Hi!

            No first hand experience hereas yet.

            I've thought about getting a Chromebook to look at and I
            do know someone
            who uses a Chromebook fulltime, he's totally blind and
            loves it, he came
            from using an Apple Mac Mini and Voiceover.

            Further to this, may I suggest you look up the AFB Access
            World magazine.

            There you'll find a series of reviews and articles that
            have tracked the
            Chromebook and the Screen Reading technology.

            On 11/10/2017 1:34 PM, Joshua Gregory wrote:
            >
            > Hello,
            > I was wondering if anybody has had any experiences with
            Chromebooks
            > and the chromevox screen reader. What were your
            experiences? Did you
            > like it, did you not? Was there anything that stood out
            to you in
            > comparison to, say, windows and nvda or narrator? Thanks
            very much!
            >

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