Maybe I am wrong on this...but doesn't someone have to
"get" the virus first before ANY anti-virus program
(free or other) can write a fix?  I suppose it would
be easier if the A-holes that write those viri would
announce they are coming out before they are released.
 Also, I am told some virus's can be caught without
even opening an attachment...don't know if that is
true or not.  Just my 2 cents :)

Calvin Neal 
Orrington Electronics
Orrington, Maine


  
--- Ed Gaidies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Must be a Canadian thing Gary, I feel the same, I
> don't trust anyone to
> search thru my files, especially not knowing who it
> is.
> 
> -Ed-
> 
> Ed Gaidies
> Tel-Tek Electronics.
> Ontario-Canada
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Gary McCartney
> Sent: January 31, 2004 11:20 AM
> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST
> Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> 
> Bil, it probably has the approval rating because it
> IS free. I use
> Norton 2003 and I have absolutely no problem with
> it. It automatically
> downloads the new updates and it caught this new
> virus that just came
> out the day before. Maybe some people don't have
> their Norton configured
> right or something if they have complaints about it.
> My theory is I'll
> use Norton because they are a big outfit and
> therefore I would think
> that they would have more research and development
> in catching viruses
> than the little company. Maybe  the little company
> might contract to use
> the Norton engine, who knows? I personally wouldn't
> trust a "free" virus
> scanning service to catch all the viruses, nor would
> I trust them
> scanning my hard drive for fear that they would be
> "snooping" my files.
> They have to do something for money, and maybe
> snooping files is their
> income?
> 
> Just my opinion- I could be totally wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gary McCartney
> 
> McCartney Electronics
> Guelph Ontario Canada 
> Est. 1984
> email: gary (at) number63.ca
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bil Green wrote:
> > 
> > I don't know why everyone is so big on Norton.
> Here is the user
> > approval rating (at download.com) for Norton
> Antivirus 2004:
> > 28% (from 234 votes). If it's this bad they should
> give everyone
> > a refund.
> > 
> > Avast Anitivirus has an 89% approval rating (over
> 400 votes)
> > and it's free. I prefer to use Panda Titanium.
> > 
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > 
> >  Bil Green
> >  2001 TV VCR
> >  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
> >  760-934-2001
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Friday, January 30, 2004, 9:10:25 PM, you wrote:
> > 
> > MW> Good Jeff. It should also be mentioned that
> Norton protection
> costs less
> > MW> than $30.00 per year. It does piss me off that
> we have loose
> cannons out
> > MW> there who have no regard for the other person.
> Heck.
> > 
> > MW> Mark Wentowski
> > MW> Perry Hill Electronics
> > MW> 3836 Harrison Rd.
> > MW> Montgomery AL 36109
> > MW> phone: (334)279-5622
> > MW> fax:   (334)273-9050
> > MW> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > MW> -----Original Message-----
> > MW> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MW> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Intrepid
> Video
> > MW> Support
> > MW> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:41 PM
> > MW> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST
> > MW> Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> > 
> > MW> Mark,
> > MW> Sounds like you do more than most.
> > MW> Like I said, I had gotten several of these in
> between my Norton
> updates, but
> > MW> they were obviously
> > MW> suspicious...Usually the message body makes no
> sense.
> > MW> If you're not sure, just don't open it..
> Getting a vir*s really
> puts a
> > MW> damper on email lists, their users
> > MW> and in general the web itself..
> > MW> All the while happening in the process of our
> websites and email
> lists
> > MW> changing servers. New people will
> > MW> not be subscribed unless they contact me
> personally. This vir*s
> has been
> > MW> trying to subscribe to the list
> > MW> and I had to turn that function off until this
> thing
> subsides...10-20 admin
> > MW> rejects per day..
> > 
> > MW> Jeff Dougherty
> > MW> Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> > MW> 263 S Front St
> > MW> Steelton PA 17113
> > MW> fax...717-564-4952
> > MW> www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> > 
> > MW> ----- Original Message -----
> > MW> From: "Mark Wentowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > MW> To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > MW> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:45 PM
> > MW> Subject: RE: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> > 
> > MW> Jeff, I know firsthand how much money can be
> lost when a business
> gets a
> > MW> virus in the system. I use Norton and get
> automatic daily updates.
> On Friday
> > MW> nights Norton does a complete virus scan of
> all the drives. Am I
> doing
> > MW> enough? If a computer does get infected but
> Norton says they are
> clean how
> > MW> can we find out about it?
> > 
> > MW> Mark Wentowski
> > MW> Perry Hill Electronics
> > MW> 3836 Harrison Rd.
> > MW> Montgomery AL 36109
> > MW> phone: (334)279-5622
> > MW> fax:   (334)273-9050
> > MW> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > MW> -----Original Message-----
> > MW> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MW> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Intrepid
> Video
> > MW> Support
> > MW> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:21 AM
> > MW> To: Tech List
> > MW> Subject: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> > 
> > MW> I have one thing to say, if I find out who on
> this list got
> infected, you
> > MW> will be permanently banned from
> > MW> this list!
> > MW> There is no friggin excuse to get infected.
> Vir*ses have been
> around for a
> > MW> long time and every
> > MW> professional on this list should be able to
> detect a suspicious
> email.
> > MW> Just because your anti-vir*s did not detect
> the 
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