Jeff, LeRoy summed up pretty well. I don't have allot of dead beats as custs. This area is growing rapidly into a Metro area but also around here a person is as good as their word or handshake or they wouldn't last. Don't need a bunch of mumbo jumbo paper-work. Plus allot of bartering goes on around here and believe you me, that is sometimes allot more valuable then cash. I might get a 200/250.00 car repair in exchange for a 25" tv repair that requires little and a vcr cleaning, but cash is still my favorite. Also as LeRoy mentioned, what works for one may or may not for another, you gotta play the hand your dealt. As far as filtering junk, again as LeRoy stated, I can pretty well tell if unit is not worth messin with even before it gets here by our phone conversation. What kind..? How old..?? Problem now having..?? How was it working before problem..?? Been around long enough to let them know if it's even worth wasting anybody's time or bring it on by. "joe" ================================= [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LeRoy�Westlund) Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2004, 12:20pm (EDT-2) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST) Subject: Re: [Techs] LeRoy's demise...was...: Fixed., ..now coming to Joe's defense ! Reply�to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST) It works good for me. that way around here, also, Jeff. It depends on your area,...the size of the towns, the population factor,...your good reputation (that you built up over the years),...etc. I had this kind of a reputation in a 6 county area once. Problem is my OLD customer base is all dying off, and I have to be a little more careful with some of the younger generations around here. Have to handle some of these new people with "Kid's gloves". I wouldn't even try to run my business in the same manner, if I was working out of a big metropoliton area, where you have a lot of crime, and where you have to have bars on your windows, and where EVERY customer that comes in your door is a stranger to you. Just can't compare oranges to apples,....I understand exactly what Joe is saying. Works OK for some of us,...just not ALL of us. LLW LeRoy Westlund Westlund TV & Electronics 97 North Main � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � "Where there's a will,... Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 � � � � � There's always a way." Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Intrepid Video Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, April 04, 2004 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Techs] LeRoy's demise...was...: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was vertical problem) Joe, I hope you have that in writing that the customer signs and you have checked with your local laws. You can't just automatically make a set yours. There is a lawful procedure to follow. Jeff Dougherty Intrepid Video TV/VCR 263 S Front St Steelton PA 17113 fax...717-564-4952 www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Tech2004" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 6:53 PM Subject: RE: [Techs] LeRoy's demise...was...: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was vertical problem) I've never ever had to worry about any units hanging around and waiting for custs approval or to pick up after repaired. Everything is known up front within a week at most. Never have to worry about contacting cust to pick up, it's either picked up within days after repair or given to me the moment they decide they don't want the repair. "joe" ================================= [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My customer's who get the coupons have already "proven" themselves by leaving an estimate fee on another unit. These are the people we want to come back and use our services. As I said. I think it was a great idea! It's the best of both worlds. It's not a completely free estimate but at the same time it has value to the customer and shows them that we appreciate their business. Heck Eugene, If I were a customer I wouldn't bring anything to you if you behave towards your customers as you behave on these lists. Mark Wentowski Perry Hill Electronics 3836 Harrison Rd. Montgomery AL 36109 phone: (334)279-5622 fax: (334)273-9050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================================= From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eugene Spooner================================= It is kinda like you say "Reasonable Expectations". The set that gets past my door HAS got to have a deposit or it's no deal at all and goes back out PDQ. For me here and don't know what it is in your area ; it is a "Legal" problem that when it is and legally got rid of it requires either one of two things - Certified Mail for one and wait 6 months is the other. So , if I am going to be bound by that - I WANT SOME LOOT for it all. If I get rid of it wrongfully ; I may end up paying $100.00 ( Law specifies minimum value is $100.00 regardless ) for it plus Court Costs ( $55.00 ) and I am not about to do $155.00 on a set that won't bring me over $50 profits after all is said and done. Effectively for DV sets ; I charge a $20.00 estimate fee for looking at it. I get $40.00 up front and if they do not come back for the 'refund' of $20.00 ; I use it up to pay for the Certified mail and disposal charges. Have started doing this as to kill Two Birds with one stone. I use the same Certified Mail to give notice of storage charges of $2.00 per day beginning the Day after the mailing of this Certified Mail. This came about because of a Peer of mine had bitterly complained about the Postal Service taking 3 MONTHS to deliver a certified mail on a Wide Screen. If he had that 'storage charges' in the mailing ; would have collected an additional $180.00 plus the repair bill of $330.00 on a set that he can sell for $600-$700 easy enough. Then the Owner can talk to the Postal Service about that.. Owner came by and ... As for the "Free Estimate" ; guess I do that and it is while the Customer is here and I advise him what it might cost and if he wants more specifics or OK's the repair guesstimates ; I GET that deposit before I take one screw out ! This is 'filtering' at the front to get rid of cheapskates or they are 'not serious'. This has been the sorest point with me followed by "Long Time" to pick up. NLA is next. Best: Eugene ================================= Mark Wentowski wrote: Hi Leroy and Jeff. I couldn't agree more. But in our market area and because of our overhead we do charge estimate fees but recently we've printed up some "free estimate" coupons. When a customer returns to pick up an unrepaired unit we give them a coupon. It is transferable so they can share it with their family or friends. So far it has worked out well and people aren't as likely to think that they've been ripped off. I thought it was a great idea. Mark Wentowski Perry Hill Electronics 3836 Harrison Rd. Montgomery AL 36109 phone: (334)279-5622 fax: (334)273-9050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] =================================�============ LeRoy, More power to you. No one has any business telling you how to run your business and it annoys me when other techs tell you NOT to give free estimates, to charge more, etc... Some of us have to use some creative selling techniques to bring in more business. I some times spend 15 minutes encouraging a customer to leave their set. When you have nothing to repair..you appreciate the ones that will leave their set and agree to a reasonable repair bill. Jeff Dougherty Intrepid Video TV/ Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 11:54 AM Subject: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was vertical problem) ================================= Hi Mark, and fellow techs. I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I don't want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then I have to. A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size of the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100 for PTVs. I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for the FREE estimate. Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to buy a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the price that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell is not any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned properly. Of course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch. I will have to convence them of that. In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to discourage them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get some of the BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I am certain that there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being junked, that could be fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing this because I am desperate. If I had many customers like the good ole days,...I would be more picky, but, things are getting scary around here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each day that passes. Hope things are better for you guys in your resective areas. You might say,...that I am making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World at their own game, and undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,..... ;-) LLW LeRoy Westlund ______________________________________________ Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net Techs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com ______________________________________________ Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net Techs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com
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