I agree with Perry. Also, in my opinion, as far as Semis, and ICs are concerned. These kind of parts can also be pretty realiable from a used chassis source. Depends on if it was a lightning damaged set, or just salvaged because of a broken board, or a bad CRT, etc. You can even use the e-caps off the NEWER chassis (in a pinch), cause they havn't had time to dry out. Just don't use them off the older ones.
IMHO, LLW LeRoy Westlund Westlund TV & Electronics 97 North Main "Where there's a will,... Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Electric Medic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 9:41 AM Subject: RE: [Techs] LeRoy's demise...was...: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was vertical problem) >I knew this topic would lead to the old "used parts" scare. All I can say is >have you ever bought a tuner from a tuner rebuilder? I got news, you might >as well take one off a junker chassis because that is what you get, used. >Well, they may change one IC or something, but every other part is old. You >might also get the intermittent the dud provider didn't mention. At least, I >mark my junker chassis as to what is good or bad as best that I can tell. >Same thing with board rebuilders, do we really think the rebuilders replace >every part "New" on those chassis. They may put one or two new parts, the >rest are probably older than the junk chassis you have laying around. And >guess what, if the shop made a mistake or the rebuilder thinks the shop made >a mistake a sent them a good board as dud, they will ship it to you as >"rebuilt" with all the previous intermittent the other customer had. So we >all use "used" parts whether we know it or not. > >Perry Bower >Electric Medic >"It's Cheaper to Keep Her" >http://www.electricmedic.com >3850 Washington Road Suite 4C >Martinez, Georgia 30907 >Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424) >Phone: 706-863-3474 >Fax: 706-863-2316 >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of larry >Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:48 AM >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST >Subject: Re: [Techs] LeRoy's demise...was...: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 >27B800,no video..(was vertical problem) > > >this is not directed to any special person, just my thoughts. >Is this list secure, or can anyone search google and find >these messages. >I don t use parts from old tv's unless the customer authorizes >it. which I seldom do, because new parts are so cheap now, and >the old parts are questionable quality, such as IC s, >flybacks, etc. >Disposing of a customers junk is not too easy, if you want to >be legal. >registered letters, etc. >i have saved a few tvs I felt were just too good to junk, but >after sitting for a year collecting dust , I end up junking >them any way. >i hate to go back to a set i already gave up on. lol >We charge for estimates, when we didnt , we got junk that some >picked off the curb, and would not spend much to repair, >because the felt it was near worthless. >i can usually sell a repair easier than a used tv. >the original owner seems to value their tv more than a >stranger would. >Please remember, this may not be a private list, >and someones customer may be reading this, and assume we all >the same. >Just my thoughts, >Larry > > > > > >Intrepid Video Support wrote: >> Joe, >> I hope you have that in writing that the customer signs and you have >checked with your local laws. >> You can't just automatically make a set yours. There is a lawful procedure >to follow. >> >> Jeff Dougherty >> Intrepid Video TV/VCR >> 263 S Front St >> Steelton PA 17113 >> fax...717-564-4952 >> www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joe Tech2004" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 6:53 PM >> Subject: RE: [Techs] LeRoy's demise...was...: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 >27B800,no video..(was vertical >> problem) >> >> >> I've never ever had to worry about any units hanging around and waiting >> for custs approval or to pick up after repaired. Everything is known up >> front within a week at most. Never have to worry about contacting cust >> to pick up, it's either picked up within days after repair or given to >> me the moment they decide they don't want the repair. "joe" >> ================================= >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> My customer's who get the coupons have already "proven" themselves by >> leaving an estimate fee on another unit. These are the people we want to >> come back and use our services. >> As I said. I think it was a great idea! It's the best of both worlds. >> It's not a completely free estimate but at the same time it has value to >> the customer and shows them that we appreciate their business. >> Heck Eugene, If I were a customer I wouldn't bring anything to you if >> you behave towards your customers as you behave on these lists. >> Mark Wentowski >> Perry Hill Electronics >> 3836 Harrison Rd. >> Montgomery AL 36109 >> phone: (334)279-5622 >> fax: (334)273-9050 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ================================= >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eugene >Spooner================================= >> It is kinda like you say "Reasonable Expectations". The set >> that gets past my door HAS got to have a deposit or it's no deal at all >> and goes back out PDQ. >> For me here and don't know what it is in your area ; it is a >> "Legal" problem that when it is and legally got rid of it requires >> either one of two things - Certified Mail for one and wait 6 months is >> the other. So , if I am going to be bound by that - I WANT SOME LOOT for >> it all. If I get rid of it wrongfully ; I may end up paying $100.00 ( >> Law specifies minimum value is $100.00 regardless ) for it plus Court >> Costs ( $55.00 ) and I am not about to do $155.00 on a set that won't >> bring me over $50 profits after all is said and done. >> Effectively for DV sets ; I charge a $20.00 estimate fee for >> looking at it. I get $40.00 up front and if they do not come back for >> the 'refund' of $20.00 ; I use it up to pay for the Certified mail and >> disposal charges. Have started doing this as to kill Two Birds with one >> stone. I use the same Certified Mail to give notice of storage charges >> of $2.00 per day beginning the Day after the mailing of this Certified >> Mail. This came about because of a Peer of mine had bitterly complained >> about the Postal Service taking 3 MONTHS to deliver a certified mail on >> a Wide Screen. If he had that 'storage charges' in the mailing ; would >> have collected an additional $180.00 plus the repair bill of $330.00 on >> a set that he can sell for $600-$700 easy enough. Then the Owner can >> talk to the Postal Service about that.. Owner came by and ... >> As for the "Free Estimate" ; guess I do that and it is while >> the Customer is here and I advise him what it might cost and if he wants >> more specifics or OK's the repair guesstimates ; I GET that deposit >> before I take one screw out ! This is 'filtering' at the front to get >> rid of cheapskates or they are 'not serious'. This has been the sorest >> point with me followed by "Long Time" to pick up. NLA is next. >> Best: Eugene >> ================================= >> Mark Wentowski wrote: >> Hi Leroy and Jeff. I couldn't agree more. But in our market area and >> because of our overhead we do charge estimate fees but recently we've >> printed up some "free estimate" coupons. When a customer returns to pick >> up an unrepaired unit we give them a coupon. It is transferable so they >> can share it with their family or friends. So far it has worked out well >> and people aren't as likely to think that they've been ripped off. I >> thought it was a great idea. >> Mark Wentowski >> Perry Hill Electronics >> 3836 Harrison Rd. >> Montgomery AL 36109 >> phone: (334)279-5622 >> fax: (334)273-9050 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ================================= ================================= >> LeRoy, >> More power to you. No one has any business telling you how to run your >> business and it annoys me when >> other techs tell you NOT to give free estimates, to charge more, etc... >> Some of us have to use some creative selling techniques to bring in more >> business. >> I some times spend 15 minutes encouraging a customer to leave their set. >> When you have nothing to >> repair..you appreciate the ones that will leave their set and agree to a >> reasonable repair bill. >> Jeff Dougherty >> Intrepid Video TV/ >> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 11:54 AM >> Subject: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was >> vertical >> problem) >> ================================= >> Hi Mark, and fellow techs. >> I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want >> anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I >> don't want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then >> I have to. A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise >> diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size >> of the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100 >> for PTVs. >> I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for >> the FREE estimate. >> Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to >> buy a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the >> price that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell >> is not any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned >> properly. Of course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch. I will >> have to convence them of that. >> In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to >> start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to >> discourage them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get >> some of the BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I >> am certain that there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being >> junked, that could be fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing this >> because I am desperate. If I had many customers like the good ole >> days,...I would be more picky, but, things are getting scary around >> here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each day that passes. Hope things are >> better for you guys in your resective areas. You might say,...that I am >> making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World at their own game, and >> undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,..... >> ;-) >> LLW >> LeRoy Westlund >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of >updates free. >> www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net >> Techs mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com >> > >-- >Schneider TV & Electronic Inc. >5415 N. 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