I would not rule out the possibility that we are missing something and/or doing 
something wrong.  So far it seems like most people who are chiming in here have 
largely nothing but positive things to say about the 8000.  I do agree that, 
generally speaking, when it is working, it does seem to perform better than a 
7000 (better SINR and sometimes better by surprising amounts, slightly better 
throughput, etc.).

I will only mention that we are also seeing problems with upload capacity on 
the more heavily loaded sectors (in terms of numbers of CPE attached).  This, 
in turn, seems to negatively impact download speed (presumably because TCP ACKs 
are being constrained / not happening in a timely fashion).  I don't think this 
is a 7000 or 8000 specific problem.  Other than the 8K weirdness, things for us 
have been humming along pretty smoothly, too, until recently when this upload 
problem started.  As mentioned earlier, we largely stayed in a holding pattern 
with eNB firmware because things were stable and we didn't want to rock the 
boat, but this upload capacity thing is what caused me to try pushing 6.6 out 
to more Compacts, even though I have read reports of similar-sounding issues 
from others here who have fully upgraded...just wanted to make sure I have all 
bases covered.  So far, as feared, it doesn't seem to have made a huge 
difference, but I really have not done a whole lot of testing yet so I don't 
want to rush to conclusions.

-- Nathan

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Terry Duchcherer
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Telrad] More CPE8K woes

This has been interesting. We have been having problems with 7000's, weird 
disconnects and/ or periods of very slow speeds.

Changing some of the biggest complainers to 8000's seems to have been positive.

Now I read about problems with these, seems to me that problems are deeper than 
what CPE is used.

Terry
NETAGO


On Dec 21, 2016 7:09 PM, Nathan Anderson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Once the 8K was available in quantity, we pretty much switched over to using it 
almost exclusively, except when we need a dish for additional gain.  We have 
had 2 very squeaky-wheel customers that got installed recently (to 2 different 
sectors on 2 different towers) that have been experiencing this.  At this 
point, we are just going to swap in 7000s for them both.  But when we started 
looking at things more in-depth today, we discovered that the problem is 
actually a lot wider than just these customers...it just seems like a 
relatively small percentage of customers who are impacted are registering 
complaints.



Given what we are seeing, it surprises me that I have yet to run into others 
who are not seeing it.  So I guess the question is, what are we doing 
differently/wrong that others are or aren't doing, OR, is there a bigger 
problem here that is actually impacting more people than is known and people 
just aren't fully aware of it?



-- Nathan



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeremy Austin
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:02 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Telrad] More CPE8K woes





On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Nathan Anderson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

It's just an interesting data point that we definitely have CPE8Ks experiencing 
this issue across multiple eNB firmware versions.

Interestingly today we have had several 8Ks with issues similar, but possibly 
not identical - I didn't handle the support calls myself. The 8Ks have been 
pretty stable overall for us, after figuring out a few initial quirks. <puts on 
his Very Superstitions shades>



Sorry to not have more solid data for you. </takes them off>




--

Jeremy Austin



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