Nope, I'm not sure.
I was assuming based on the red highlights when you switch the "UE
Category" option from Cat 4 to Cat 5 on the eNodB Capacity Estimator
V2.1.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Nathan Anderson" <[email protected]>
To: "'Adam Moffett'" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Sent: 1/26/2017 6:52:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
Hmm, you sure about that? I'll have to dig up the specs for the 2
CPEs, but the vast vast vast majority of UL subframes hitting our eNBs
are coming in modulated at MCS index 20, and the vast vast vast
majority of CPEs on our network are 7000s.
-- Nathan
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:25 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
Even without 64QAM, a category 5 UE should get to MCS 20. The 7000
being a category 4 would only get up to MCS 16 on the UL.
It'd be nice to *see* the UL MCS, but in theory it should already go a
little higher on the 8000.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Nathan Anderson" <[email protected]>
To: "'Adam Moffett'" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Sent: 1/26/2017 6:18:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
8000 does higher UL MCS, but we are advised to not enable it at this
point...
-- Nathan
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:25 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
Meant to email list.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Bryce Duchcherer" <[email protected]>
To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
Sent: 1/26/2017 5:23:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
That’s interesting, Telrad has always told us that the 8000 is a
higher powered CPE than the 7000.
Bryce D
NETAGO
From: Adam Moffett [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:01 PM
To: Bryce Duchcherer <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
Both are +23dbm tx power in LTE.
(7000 went to +27 with Wimax firmware, but that's neither here nor
there).
8000 does higher UL MCS though.
I remember a long time ago (like > 2 years) hearing about CPE with
bigger integrated panels. I might have even seen a picture of a
prototype. Maybe it's all in my head.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Bryce Duchcherer" <[email protected]>
To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Sent: 1/26/2017 4:42:09 PM
Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
I was under the assumption that the 8000 had a higher gain antenna,
but I was wrong. According to specs both the 7000 and 8000 have a
15db antenna.
Telrad has said since the announcement of the 8000 that it is their
high power CPE. I guess that they were referring to TX power, not
gain.
Bryce D
NETAGO
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:34 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
Joking perhaps? It doesn't have more antenna gain. Or do you mean
a different kind of gain?
------ Original Message ------
From: "Bryce Duchcherer" <[email protected]>
To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Sent: 1/26/2017 3:00:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
The 8000 is their higher gain CPE (other than the connectorized
7000)
Bryce D
NETAGO
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:38
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
19dbi eh? Does anyone happen to know if a higher gain CPE is on
Telrad's roadmap? I thought it was at one point.
------ Original Message ------
From: "J Portman" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 1/26/2017 2:21:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
Baicells CPE does work with telrad with a telrad sim card. We have
only tested one but it works pretty well.
JP
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:35:51 -0600, Anthony Will wrote
> So an update,
> I contacted a Baicells rep and they do support SNMP. Their
price point is in the same range as the 8000 UE. I have a 19dbi
antenna test unit coming to see if I can get it to link up.
>
> The BEC group at first blush appears to be cost prohibitive.
They suggested the UE would run around the $400 mark in relatively
small quantities. The 7000 is a cheaper solution at that point
for SNMP support. Though there could be other advantages to have
them put something together.
>
> If anyone happens to run into another possible solution let me
know. I will be happy to dig into it see if it is going to be a
solution.
Anthony
Will
Broadband
Corp
> On 1/20/2017 5:06 PM, Anthony Will wrote:
>
> I would assume at some point the 7000 is going to go away. I
haven't heard of a time line. I suspect the product has a bit of
life in it because of the continued existence of the WiMax
install base.
>
> So the 7000 is an option and one I'm looking at though I also
suspect that further development is going to be on the 8000 and
not so much on the 7000 as it was designed out of the gate as a
transitional product.
>
> I am contacting a distro for the Baicells guys, they are going
to get back to me and I called the BEC group (thanks Henry C.)
>
> From my conversation with the BEC guys. They are oriented
towards a custom design / support solution. He even mentioned
making custom firmware changes 10 times in 3 months to
accommodate a customer. They are going to get back to me on cost
and availability. I will let you all know what I find out.
>
Anthony
Will
Broadband
Corp
> On 1/20/2017 3:38 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote:
>
>
> I'm not sure what band you are deployed in, but there don't
seem to be that many band 43 (3.6) CPE options at this point...
>
> They aren't discontinuing the 7000 are they? Couldn't you
just continue to buy those?
>
> I haven't played with a Baicells CPE, but could that be an
option?
>
> The only other third-party vendor I have run into with FCC
approval is Greenpacket. But they apparently have no U.S.
distributor. So you have to buy directly from Greenpacket in
wholesale quantities. They don't have high-gain options and I
don't know that they have any connectorized models either. And
it may be moot anyway because never having played with one, I do
not know their stance on SNMP.
>
> -- Nathan
>
>
> From:[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Will
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 11:23 AM
> To:[email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
>
> My eye's are wide open to the fact that we will likely have to
maintain the breezeview "tax". But breezeview is not integrated
with our billing and network management system or processes and
likely never will be. It's this weird and clunky little thing
that I only touch when adding new SIM's to the network.
> Again, SNMP is a requirement for operations in our network.
So we are going to move forward with a solution that is
compatible with our network. If that is Telrad or another
solution. Telrad had this functionality, and was one of many
reasons we implemented their solution. Honestly it is hard for
me to call any device that does not have basic functionality
like SNMP a "carrier grade" solution.
> So has anyone ran into a CPE device that does support SNMP?
Anthony
Will
Broadband
Corp
>
> On 1/20/2017 12:07 PM, David Peterson wrote:
Keep in mind that Breezeview will be a necessary component for
CBRS
compliance.
David
-----Original
Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Anthony
Will
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:08
PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 -
SNMP
We don't use breezeview for anything as it is noting but a
glorified Ihss import utility at this point. SNMP is a
requirement for us. We
are looking for alternative CPE options that support SNMP. Has
anyone found one
other then the 7000
series?
Anthony
Will
Broadband
Corp
Office
952-215-3812
On 1/19/2017 11:52 AM, Terry Duchcherer
wrote:
That is the same thing we have been told, maybe if enough of
us request SNMP they will reconsider
this.
We have spent months trying to get StarACS to get decent
KPI's from the CPE7000's. Now we are being told that the ACS
function is moving
to BreezeView, but KPI's are several months
away.
So, now we are changing the CPE7000 to both TR069 and SNMP.
Using the ACS to do bulk software upgrades, parameter changes,
etc. And using
SNMP to get the KPI's we want. This has been much more
reliable and we are
finally getting the info we
need.
Therefore, TELRAD please add SNMP to the CPE8000, and give us
the option of TR069 and/or SNMP just like the
CPE7000.
Terry D.
Duchcherer
NETAGO
-----Original
Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of David
Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:09
AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 -
SNMP
There is no roadmap to add SNMP support to the 8000 that I
have heard,
just
TR-069
David
-----Original
Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Anthony
Will
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:08
PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Telrad] CPE 8000 -
SNMP
Anyone heard of or requested SNMP support for the
8000?
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