Interestingly, Telrad's own site calls the 8000 a "Category 4+" device, heh.
-- Nathan From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP Nope, I'm not sure. I was assuming based on the red highlights when you switch the "UE Category" option from Cat 4 to Cat 5 on the eNodB Capacity Estimator V2.1. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Nathan Anderson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "'Adam Moffett'" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 1/26/2017 6:52:24 PM Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP Hmm, you sure about that? I'll have to dig up the specs for the 2 CPEs, but the vast vast vast majority of UL subframes hitting our eNBs are coming in modulated at MCS index 20, and the vast vast vast majority of CPEs on our network are 7000s. -- Nathan From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:25 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP Even without 64QAM, a category 5 UE should get to MCS 20. The 7000 being a category 4 would only get up to MCS 16 on the UL. It'd be nice to *see* the UL MCS, but in theory it should already go a little higher on the 8000. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Nathan Anderson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "'Adam Moffett'" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 1/26/2017 6:18:03 PM Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP 8000 does higher UL MCS, but we are advised to not enable it at this point... -- Nathan From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:25 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP Meant to email list. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Bryce Duchcherer" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 1/26/2017 5:23:17 PM Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP That’s interesting, Telrad has always told us that the 8000 is a higher powered CPE than the 7000. Bryce D NETAGO From: Adam Moffett [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:01 PM To: Bryce Duchcherer <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP Both are +23dbm tx power in LTE. (7000 went to +27 with Wimax firmware, but that's neither here nor there). 8000 does higher UL MCS though. I remember a long time ago (like > 2 years) hearing about CPE with bigger integrated panels. I might have even seen a picture of a prototype. Maybe it's all in my head. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Bryce Duchcherer" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 1/26/2017 4:42:09 PM Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP I was under the assumption that the 8000 had a higher gain antenna, but I was wrong. According to specs both the 7000 and 8000 have a 15db antenna. Telrad has said since the announcement of the 8000 that it is their high power CPE. I guess that they were referring to TX power, not gain. Bryce D NETAGO From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:34 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP Joking perhaps? It doesn't have more antenna gain. Or do you mean a different kind of gain? ------ Original Message ------ From: "Bryce Duchcherer" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 1/26/2017 3:00:11 PM Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP The 8000 is their higher gain CPE (other than the connectorized 7000) Bryce D NETAGO From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:38 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP 19dbi eh? Does anyone happen to know if a higher gain CPE is on Telrad's roadmap? I thought it was at one point. ------ Original Message ------ From: "J Portman" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: 1/26/2017 2:21:31 PM Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP Baicells CPE does work with telrad with a telrad sim card. We have only tested one but it works pretty well. JP On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:35:51 -0600, Anthony Will wrote > So an update, > I contacted a Baicells rep and they do support SNMP. Their price point is in > the same range as the 8000 UE. I have a 19dbi antenna test unit coming to > see if I can get it to link up. > > The BEC group at first blush appears to be cost prohibitive. They suggested > the UE would run around the $400 mark in relatively small quantities. The > 7000 is a cheaper solution at that point for SNMP support. Though there > could be other advantages to have them put something together. > > If anyone happens to run into another possible solution let me know. I will > be happy to dig into it see if it is going to be a solution. Anthony Will Broadband Corp > On 1/20/2017 5:06 PM, Anthony Will wrote: > > I would assume at some point the 7000 is going to go away. I haven't heard > of a time line. I suspect the product has a bit of life in it because of the > continued existence of the WiMax install base. > > So the 7000 is an option and one I'm looking at though I also suspect that > further development is going to be on the 8000 and not so much on the 7000 as > it was designed out of the gate as a transitional product. > > I am contacting a distro for the Baicells guys, they are going to get back to > me and I called the BEC group (thanks Henry C.) > > From my conversation with the BEC guys. They are oriented towards a custom > design / support solution. He even mentioned making custom firmware changes > 10 times in 3 months to accommodate a customer. They are going to get back > to me on cost and availability. I will let you all know what I find out. > Anthony Will Broadband Corp > On 1/20/2017 3:38 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote: > > > I'm not sure what band you are deployed in, but there don't seem to be that > many band 43 (3.6) CPE options at this point... > > They aren't discontinuing the 7000 are they? Couldn't you just continue to > buy those? > > I haven't played with a Baicells CPE, but could that be an option? > > The only other third-party vendor I have run into with FCC approval is > Greenpacket. But they apparently have no U.S. distributor. So you have to > buy directly from Greenpacket in wholesale quantities. They don't have > high-gain options and I don't know that they have any connectorized models > either. And it may be moot anyway because never having played with one, I do > not know their stance on SNMP. > > -- Nathan > > > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Will > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 11:23 AM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP > > My eye's are wide open to the fact that we will likely have to maintain the > breezeview "tax". But breezeview is not integrated with our billing and > network management system or processes and likely never will be. It's this > weird and clunky little thing that I only touch when adding new SIM's to the > network. > Again, SNMP is a requirement for operations in our network. So we are going > to move forward with a solution that is compatible with our network. If that > is Telrad or another solution. Telrad had this functionality, and was one of > many reasons we implemented their solution. Honestly it is hard for me to > call any device that does not have basic functionality like SNMP a "carrier > grade" solution. > So has anyone ran into a CPE device that does support SNMP? Anthony Will Broadband Corp > > On 1/20/2017 12:07 PM, David Peterson wrote: Keep in mind that Breezeview will be a necessary component for CBRS compliance. David -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:08 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP We don't use breezeview for anything as it is noting but a glorified Ihss import utility at this point. SNMP is a requirement for us. We are looking for alternative CPE options that support SNMP. Has anyone found one other then the 7000 series? Anthony Will Broadband Corp Office 952-215-3812 On 1/19/2017 11:52 AM, Terry Duchcherer wrote: That is the same thing we have been told, maybe if enough of us request SNMP they will reconsider this. We have spent months trying to get StarACS to get decent KPI's from the CPE7000's. Now we are being told that the ACS function is moving to BreezeView, but KPI's are several months away. So, now we are changing the CPE7000 to both TR069 and SNMP. Using the ACS to do bulk software upgrades, parameter changes, etc. And using SNMP to get the KPI's we want. This has been much more reliable and we are finally getting the info we need. Therefore, TELRAD please add SNMP to the CPE8000, and give us the option of TR069 and/or SNMP just like the CPE7000. Terry D. Duchcherer NETAGO -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Peterson Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:09 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP There is no roadmap to add SNMP support to the 8000 that I have heard, just TR-069 David -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:08 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP Anyone heard of or requested SNMP support for the 8000? _______________________________________________ Telrad mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad > > _______________________________________________ Telrad mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad > > > _______________________________________________ Telrad mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad > > > _______________________________________________ Telrad mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad Joe Portman Alamo Broadband Inc. http://www.alamobroadband.com/
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