Both CPE7K and 8K can work up to MCS index 23. In 6.6 they were both limited to MCS index 21 without manual CLI changes on the eNodeB. With the upgrade to 6.6M2 (soon to be released) the MCS index limit will be automatically increased to 23. Subsequently the 8000 will be supporting 64QAM (MCS 28) within 4-6 weeks
I know there has been a lot of chatter in about uplink capacity. We have major improvements to uplink coming in the 6.6M2 release and we will be kicking off our first beta with that release the week of Feb 6th Additionally we will soon be formally kicking off our Zendesk community, this will allow Telrad users to collaborate in a user forum and contribute to our knowledge base repository. The community is actually live now for anyone to access via our portal so feel free to post questions there. 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Re: CPE 8000 - SNMP (Adam Moffett) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 23:54:32 +0000 From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <em10d6af19-e466-4b1d-975e-4838231f2042@techlaptop1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Nope, I'm not sure. I was assuming based on the red highlights when you switch the "UE Category" option from Cat 4 to Cat 5 on the eNodB Capacity Estimator V2.1. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Nathan Anderson" <[email protected]> To: "'Adam Moffett'" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: 1/26/2017 6:52:24 PM Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP >Hmm, you sure about that? I'll have to dig up the specs for the 2 >CPEs, but the vast vast vast majority of UL subframes hitting our eNBs >are coming in modulated at MCS index 20, and the vast vast vast >majority of CPEs on our network are 7000s. > > > >-- Nathan > > > >From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf Of Adam Moffett >Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:25 PM To:[email protected] >Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP > > > >Even without 64QAM, a category 5 UE should get to MCS 20. The 7000 >being a category 4 would only get up to MCS 16 on the UL. > > > >It'd be nice to *see* the UL MCS, but in theory it should already go a >little higher on the 8000. > > > > > > > >------ Original Message ------ > >From: "Nathan Anderson" <[email protected]> > >To: "'Adam Moffett'" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" ><[email protected]> > >Sent: 1/26/2017 6:18:03 PM > >Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP > > > >>8000 does higher UL MCS, but we are advised to not enable it at this >>point... >> >> >> >>-- Nathan >> >> >> >>From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>Behalf Of Adam Moffett >>Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:25 PM To:[email protected] >>Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP >> >> >> >>Meant to email list. >> >> >> >> >> >>------ Original Message ------ >> >>From: "Bryce Duchcherer" <[email protected]> >> >>To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> >> >>Sent: 1/26/2017 5:23:17 PM >> >>Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP >> >> >> >>>That?s interesting, Telrad has always told us that the 8000 is a >>>higher powered CPE than the 7000. >>> >>> >>> >>>Bryce D >>> >>>NETAGO >>> >>> >>> >>>From: Adam Moffett [mailto:[email protected]] >>>Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:01 PM >>>To: Bryce Duchcherer <[email protected]> >>>Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP >>> >>> >>> >>>Both are +23dbm tx power in LTE. >>> >>>(7000 went to +27 with Wimax firmware, but that's neither here nor >>>there). >>> >>>8000 does higher UL MCS though. >>> >>> >>> >>>I remember a long time ago (like > 2 years) hearing about CPE with >>>bigger integrated panels. I might have even seen a picture of a >>>prototype. Maybe it's all in my head. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------ Original Message ------ >>> >>>From: "Bryce Duchcherer" <[email protected]> >>> >>>To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" >>><[email protected]> >>> >>>Sent: 1/26/2017 4:42:09 PM >>> >>>Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP >>> >>> >>> >>>>I was under the assumption that the 8000 had a higher gain antenna, >>>>but I was wrong. According to specs both the 7000 and 8000 have a >>>>15db antenna. >>>> >>>>Telrad has said since the announcement of the 8000 that it is their >>>>high power CPE. I guess that they were referring to TX power, not >>>>gain. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Bryce D >>>> >>>>NETAGO >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>Behalf Of Adam Moffett >>>>Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:34 PM To:[email protected] >>>>Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Joking perhaps? It doesn't have more antenna gain. Or do you mean >>>>a different kind of gain? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------ Original Message ------ >>>> >>>>From: "Bryce Duchcherer" <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" >>>><[email protected]> >>>> >>>>Sent: 1/26/2017 3:00:11 PM >>>> >>>>Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>The 8000 is their higher gain CPE (other than the connectorized >>>>>7000) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Bryce D >>>>> >>>>>NETAGO >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>Behalf Of Adam Moffett >>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:38 To:[email protected] >>>>>Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>19dbi eh? Does anyone happen to know if a higher gain CPE is on >>>>>Telrad's roadmap? I thought it was at one point. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>------ Original Message ------ >>>>> >>>>>From: "J Portman" <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>Sent: 1/26/2017 2:21:31 PM >>>>> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Baicells CPE does work with telrad with a telrad sim card. We have >>>>>>only tested one but it works pretty well. >>>>>> >>>>>>JP >>>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:35:51 -0600, Anthony Will wrote >>>>>> > So an update, >>>>>> > I contacted a Baicells rep and they do support SNMP. Their >>>>>>price point is in the same range as the 8000 UE. I have a 19dbi >>>>>>antenna test unit coming to see if I can get it to link up. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > The BEC group at first blush appears to be cost prohibitive. >>>>>>They suggested the UE would run around the $400 mark in relatively >>>>>>small quantities. The 7000 is a cheaper solution at that point >>>>>>for SNMP support. Though there could be other advantages to have >>>>>>them put something together. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If anyone happens to run into another possible solution let me >>>>>>know. I will be happy to dig into it see if it is going to be a >>>>>>solution. >>>>>> >>>>>>Anthony >>>>>> >>>>>>Will >>>>>> >>>>>>Broadband >>>>>> >>>>>>Corp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > On 1/20/2017 5:06 PM, Anthony Will wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > I would assume at some point the 7000 is going to go away. I >>>>>>>haven't heard of a time line. I suspect the product has a bit of >>>>>>>life in it because of the continued existence of the WiMax >>>>>>>install base. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > So the 7000 is an option and one I'm looking at though I also >>>>>>>suspect that further development is going to be on the 8000 and >>>>>>>not so much on the 7000 as it was designed out of the gate as a >>>>>>>transitional product. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I am contacting a distro for the Baicells guys, they are going >>>>>>>to get back to me and I called the BEC group (thanks Henry C.) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > From my conversation with the BEC guys. They are oriented >>>>>>>towards a custom design / support solution. He even mentioned >>>>>>>making custom firmware changes 10 times in 3 months to >>>>>>>accommodate a customer. They are going to get back to me on cost >>>>>>>and availability. I will let you all know what I find out. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Anthony >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Will >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Broadband >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Corp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > On 1/20/2017 3:38 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I'm not sure what band you are deployed in, but there don't >>>>>>>>seem to be that many band 43 (3.6) CPE options at this point... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > They aren't discontinuing the 7000 are they? Couldn't you >>>>>>>>just continue to buy those? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I haven't played with a Baicells CPE, but could that be an >>>>>>>>option? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > The only other third-party vendor I have run into with FCC >>>>>>>>approval is Greenpacket. But they apparently have no U.S. >>>>>>>>distributor. So you have to buy directly from Greenpacket in >>>>>>>>wholesale quantities. They don't have high-gain options and I >>>>>>>>don't know that they have any connectorized models either. And >>>>>>>>it may be moot anyway because never having played with one, I do >>>>>>>>not know their stance on SNMP. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- Nathan >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > From:[email protected] >>>>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Will >>>>>>>> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 11:23 AM To:[email protected] >>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > My eye's are wide open to the fact that we will likely have >>>>>>>> > to >>>>>>>>maintain the breezeview "tax". But breezeview is not integrated >>>>>>>>with our billing and network management system or processes and >>>>>>>>likely never will be. It's this weird and clunky little thing >>>>>>>>that I only touch when adding new SIM's to the network. >>>>>>>> > Again, SNMP is a requirement for operations in our network. >>>>>>>>So we are going to move forward with a solution that is >>>>>>>>compatible with our network. If that is Telrad or another >>>>>>>>solution. Telrad had this functionality, and was one of many >>>>>>>>reasons we implemented their solution. Honestly it is hard for >>>>>>>>me to call any device that does not have basic functionality >>>>>>>>like SNMP a "carrier grade" solution. >>>>>>>> > So has anyone ran into a CPE device that does support SNMP? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Anthony >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Will >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Broadband >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Corp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On 1/20/2017 12:07 PM, David Peterson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Keep in mind that Breezeview will be a necessary component for >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>CBRS >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>compliance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>David >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-----Original >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Message----- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Behalf Of Anthony >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Will >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:08 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>PM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>SNMP >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>We don't use breezeview for anything as it is noting but a >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>glorified Ihss import utility at this point. SNMP is a >>>>>>>>>requirement for us. We >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>are looking for alternative CPE options that support SNMP. Has >>>>>>>>>anyone found one >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>other then the 7000 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>series? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Anthony >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Will >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Broadband >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Corp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Office >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>952-215-3812 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On 1/19/2017 11:52 AM, Terry Duchcherer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>That is the same thing we have been told, maybe if enough of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>us request SNMP they will reconsider >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>We have spent months trying to get StarACS to get decent >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>KPI's from the CPE7000's. Now we are being told that the ACS >>>>>>>>>>function is moving >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>to BreezeView, but KPI's are several months >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>away. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>So, now we are changing the CPE7000 to both TR069 and SNMP. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Using the ACS to do bulk software upgrades, parameter changes, >>>>>>>>>>etc. And using >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>SNMP to get the KPI's we want. This has been much more >>>>>>>>>>reliable and we are >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>finally getting the info we >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>need. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Therefore, TELRAD please add SNMP to the CPE8000, and give us >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>the option of TR069 and/or SNMP just like the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>CPE7000. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Terry D. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Duchcherer >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>NETAGO >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>-----Original >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Message----- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Behalf Of David >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Peterson >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:09 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>AM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>SNMP >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>There is no roadmap to add SNMP support to the 8000 that I >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>have heard, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>just >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>TR-069 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>David >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>-----Original >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Message----- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Behalf Of Anthony >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Will >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:08 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>PM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>SNMP >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Anyone heard of or requested SNMP support for the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>8000? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Telrad mailing >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>[email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Telrad mailing >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>[email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Telrad mailing >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Telrad mailing >>>>>>> >>>>>>>list >>>>>>> >>>>>>>[email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Joe Portman >>>>>>Alamo Broadband Inc. >>>>>>http://www.alamobroadband.com/ >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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