Yes, we could discuss that also, but I would like to keep the threads separated if possible.
Lukas On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 11:44 AM Julen Landa Alustiza <ju...@zokormazo.info> wrote: > Related to this and server, and remembering that we had a non working cron > issue proposed as blocker but we didn't have a clear criteria that was > violated to accept the blocker bug, but the majority of the meeting > attendees was in favour of blocking because cron was not working on server > edition and that was a big issue... could we discuss about having blocking > core applications on server flavour? just some basic services, sshd, cron, > systemd... > > El mié., 7 nov. 2018 11:35, Lukas Ruzicka <lruzi...@redhat.com> escribió: > >> Hello Fedora QA and friends, >> >> I would like to propose a change of what we define as core applications >> because I feel that how it is done today is not sufficient. Let me explain. >> >> ## How it works today? >> >> The *core applications* are defined in this testcase ( >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Technical_Specification#Core_Applications). >> In our matrices, the core applications are only tested for Gnome >> Workstation. The appropriate test case ( >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Technical_Specification#Core_Applications) >> requires that all core applications are installed on the system and that >> they start. The functionality is apparently tested by the *Desktop Menus >> Testcase*. >> >> ## How I think it could work? >> I think we could change how we approach the core applications, how we >> test them and where we test them. For example: >> >> * A list of generic core applications should be made (or the old list >> used, see above), so that core applications are not limited to a certain >> desktop environment (although we only test Gnome). By *generic* I mean that >> we should not explicitly say, if the terminal application is >> *gnome-terminal* or anything else. We only say it is a *terminal* >> application and each spin will pick up what suits best for them. >> * Core applications should be promoted to be a part of all Fedora spins. >> It should not happen that a spin is missing a core application after a >> clean installation. >> * The presence check (that the apps are installed) could be easily done >> by OpenQA. Possibly, it could be done even for more DE than just Gnome, >> hence we could enhance the user experience for spin users. >> * Functionality of the applications should be redefined - what we expect >> for them to be doing - and this functionality should be required. I >> suppose, that we would only block on Workstation functionality, though. >> However, these guidelines could help the spin teams to decide which apps to >> use as core apps. >> * *Core applications* should not just have a basic functionality, as >> defined in *Gnome Menus testcase* ( >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_menus), they should >> be fully functioning. >> >> Before I focus on details, I would like to know your opinions on this >> matter. >> >> Thank you. >> >> To reply, visit the link below or just reply to this email >> https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/569 >> >> >> -- >> >> Lukáš Růžička >> >> FEDORA QE, RHCE >> >> Red Hat >> >> <https://www.redhat.com> >> >> Purkyňova 115 >> >> 612 45 Brno - Královo Pole >> >> lruzi...@redhat.com >> TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED. <https://redhat.com/trusted> >> _______________________________________________ >> test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org >> > _______________________________________________ > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- Lukáš Růžička FEDORA QE, RHCE Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com> Purkyňova 115 612 45 Brno - Královo Pole lruzi...@redhat.com TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED. <https://redhat.com/trusted>
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