Thank you for bringing this thread over to the "testing" mailing list where it belongs.
There is real functionality in having the vendor list in the white paper itself. Not everybody likes to read this stuff on line. Personally I do a lot of reading while on the road, airports, airplanes, etc., without access to the Internet. As long as we can keep the list a neutral list instead of free advertising for the vendors, it is OK. For instance, the pricing column should either have the price or be blank. The word "Call" does not belong there. Call who? Call WEDI for pricing? But even with the amount of advertising in the list today, it is not too bad. It is better to have a vendor-provided description of the product than nothing at all. The list in the testing white paper is a list of products. Some vendors list one product. Other vendors list more than one product. This, effectively gives more visibility to the vendors that list multiple products because they get multiple entries. One way to correct that is to make it list vendors instead. One entry per vendor with a maximum of so many inches of column space to describe their products. I still think the product descriptions are useful, but a compromise would be to have no product descriptions at all. Perhaps some reduced functionality description, reduced to whether the product is standalone or a service, the testing types, whether it offers certification or not, and stuff like that. Perhaps we can convert the current table into a set of columns with check-boxes so it is more objective and not so bulky. Is this a topic for discussion on Thursday? Kepa On Tuesday 23 July 2002 11:41 pm, Sanjeev N Kulkarni wrote: > --0-1878244696-1027489289=:29033 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > David, > In of the testing meetings I had suggested that the White Paper should not list any vendor but the suggestion had been shot down. > The main contents of the paper have more longevity and have reference value. Information in Appendix A is of transient nature and should be removed. > > Sanjeev N .Kulkarni > Chief Technical Officer, > Advent Software Ltd. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > David Frenkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark, > Your suggestion makes sense. > > Regards, > > David Frenkel > Business Development > GEFEG USA > Global Leader in Ecommerce Tools > www.gefeg.com > 425-260-5030 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark A Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:23 PM > To: 'David Frenkel'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: New White Paper Appendix - Vendors please review! > > May I make another suggestion to the group? There is also the > possibility > to add all vendors to the WEDI SNIP website under vendor solutions and > remove vendors from the white papers. That would keep white papers > informational and not advertisements. As I am responsible for "HIPAA > Resources" and other pages on the WEDI SNIP website and I am currently > in > process of creating a new design layout for the vendor solutions page > and > wouldn't mind suggesting this change to the board. Just an idea... but > it > does eliminate constant updates to all the white papers for new vendors > requesting additions/deletions and removes the burden from all the other > WED > SNIP workgroup co-chairs and consolidates them into one place. > Thoughts? > > Mark A Lott > President > HIPAA Testing, Inc. > WEDI SNIP Education Workgroup > Chair Web Initiatives Sub-workgroup > www.hipaatesting.com > > Office: 480-946-7200 > Cell: 480-580-4415 > Fax: 877-825-8309 > > "Advanced Testing and Certification of HIPAA Transaction Compliance" > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential > and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure > or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Frenkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: New White Paper Appendix - Vendors please review! > > Ruth, > I understand what you are saying about vendors being connected to a > particular white paper but that is not intuitive looking at the > appendix. > Having vendors lumped together in the tesing/Certification column will > only frustrate everybody. If I get contacted, which I did just > yesterday, about certification products I have to refer them to another > vendor. If I refer organizations to this new white paper and everybody > is lumped together they may call numerous vendors before they find the > one they want. > I might as well add the reality check in this discussion. As far as I > am aware the only organization that offers 'cerfitication' is Claredi. > There is no sense hiding this and if anybody else wants to offer > 'cerfitication' that is fine as well. I don't think having a 3rd column > that adds clarification is a lot to maintain but I realize I am not > doing the maintenance. > > I am hoping there are no other comments about adding additional columns. > There was a management decision to compress the vendor appendix, which I > agree with, but I think it still needs to be useful. Thanks. > > Regards, > > David Frenkel > Business Development > GEFEG USA > Global Leader in Ecommerce Tools > www.gefeg.com > 425-260-5030 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tucci-Kaufhold, Ruth A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:31 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Transactions_Cc (E-mail) > Subject: RE: New White Paper Appendix - Vendors please review! > > It is my understanding that the "columns" are to show that the "reason" > the > vendor is on the list at all is because they are mentioned in reference > to a > "specific" white paper. Not to classify vendors ... that becomes > maintenance that we don't want to do. The "vendor" classification > columns > would then become "infinite" per each vendor's definition of "what they > do". > > > We should just keep the columns to the white papers that they are > associated > with. > > Ruth Tucci-Kaufhold > HIPAA Systems Analyst > UNISYS Corporation > 4050 Innslake Drive > Suite 202 > Glen Allen, VA 23060 > (804) 346-1138 > (804) 935-1647 (fax) > N246-1138 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Frenkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: New White Paper Appendix - Vendors please review! > > > > Catherine, > I agree with your efforts that the appendix should just be a vendor > listing with contacts. The only suggestion I have would be to add a > third column to separate 'Testing/Certification Vendor' into 'Testing > Vendor' and 'Certification Vendor'. It does mislead people that > everybody in the 'Testing/Certification' column does certification. > Speaking for GEFEG we do not currently do certification. Thanks for > your efforts. > > Regards, > > David Frenkel > Business Development > GEFEG USA > Global Leader in Ecommerce Tools > www.gefeg.com > 425-260-5030 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: New White Paper Appendix - Vendors please review! > > In an effort to create a maintainable and equitable listing of > Transaction > Vendors the Translation and Testing Sub-Workgroups have decided to join > together and establish a single (and hopefully more efficient) "Appendix > A" > for their respective white papers. > > As you are probably aware, Appendix A of the Testing and Certification > white paper and the Translator white paper list vendors who provide > solutions (products and/or services) that address the issues raised in > the > white papers. The purpose of the appendix is to assist the readers of > the > white paper in finding a solution to aid them in their translation or > testing/certification needs. > > The new Appendix A is basically a "phone book" and simply includes the > company name, key contact information, a link to the company's website, > and > an indication of the solutions provided (either Translation and/or > Testing/Certification). > > If you are a vendor, please review the listing and make sure that your > contact information is listed correctly. If any of you on this > listserve > are aware of another vendor in either category (Translation or > Testing/Certification) please let me know so their name can be included > on > this list. > > It is our intention that the new, consolidated Appendix A will be > included > on both the Translation and Testing/Certification white papers and will > be > posted on the WEDI website. Perhaps in the future we can also include > vendors that provide Privacy and Security solutions as well. > > Thank you for you assistance! > > (See attached file: Transaction Vendor Appendix1.zip) > > Catherine Schulten > Sybase, Inc > 6550 Rock Spring Drive > Suite 800 > Bethesda, MD 20817 > W: 301-896-1467 > C: 703-338-6955 > > > Please note that it may take up to 72 hours to process your request. > > ====================================================== > The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. > The discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the > individual participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of > the WEDI Board of Directors nor WEDI SNIP. 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