Hi All: I think the WEDI-SNIP white paper on testing and certification does a good job on defining the "Types" (used to be "Levels") of tests from a HIPAA domain point of view.
The push and shove for certification is not something many like at this stage and rightly so. The focus should be on testing and not on certification but the emphasis is on certification in this whte paper. The model recommended in that white paper is, do your internal testing, go for certification (which is now defined to be third party assessment) before you do any B2B trading partner testing... to paraphrase. This is flawed in the sense an organisation using a translator with a HIPAA compliance checker may still use a third party tools/service during their internal testing phase to build an automated test suite for example. Once they are confident, they can do some beta testig with some TPs and then with more TPs when the interoperability confidence is even higher. There is no need or room for certification here. The other important things missing from the white paper are, the traditional Software Testing aspects of unit, system, integration, beta, acceptance, stress, load, performance and autoated testing that deserve a mention more than certification. Hopefully these are covered in the next verrion, with mroe emphasis on testing and less on certification. Regards, Rama. -- ---- Sunny Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Miriam, > > The issue we need to think about is not "certification against something" > but rather than "testing against something". Testing conceptually > can be > implemented in a "nice to have", "imposes a good discipline for partners > to > do some homework of their own" types of concept - not Certification. > I agree > something is better than nothing and the concept of testing is a > work-in-progress > > I would very much like to hear some arguments for the cause of why > is a > white paper suggesting certification when it is not definitive and > at the > same time is unclear in its very concept and additionally gives no > clue to > the user how close do they get to the real thing. The perception is > also > that Certification gets them quite a ways - again a wrong perception. > > Thanks > Sunny > www.HIPAADesk.com - "Test your HIPAA Data Files in Real-Time" > www.edifecs.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Miriam Paramore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:41 PM > To: Sunny Singh; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Certifications > > > My 2 cents on this topic. The undeniable reality is that every single > trading partner in healthcare today accepts the "good enough" testing > method. There are no exhaustive test plans on either side. Until now, > via > third parties, there has been no attempt at certification against a > standard. We are making progress and it should be encouraged. Perfection > is > a goal. > > To be removed from this listserv, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <P>The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. > The > discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the individual > participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the WEDI > Board of > Directors nor WEDI SNIP. If you wish to receive an official opinion, > post > your question to the WEDI SNIP Issues Database at > http://snip.wedi.org/tracking/. > Posting of advertisements or other commercial use of this listserv > is > specifically prohibited. > > To be removed from this listserv, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] <P>The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. The discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the individual participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the WEDI Board of Directors nor WEDI SNIP. If you wish to receive an official opinion, post your question to the WEDI SNIP Issues Database at http://snip.wedi.org/tracking/. Posting of advertisements or other commercial use of this listserv is specifically prohibited.
