Am 26.05.2010 18:12, schrieb Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard:
Le 24/05/2010 18:33, Stephan Hennig a écrit :
The down side is, when german-x is updated, hyph-utf8 needs to
be updated too
But it's already the case, isn't it? I mean, it has nothing to do with the new
luatex loading system?
That is correct. But we don't release frequently. For this year's TL
there won't be a new release.
For TeX Live 2010, I hope we can agree on the following goals:
* XeTeX
No change. Load experimental patterns, by default. Make them
available as traditional languages 'german' and 'ngerman'.
Agreed. Though, since the language.dat file is shared by all engines, they will
also be available as german-x-latest and ngerman-x-latest (without the languages
being properly defined as synonyms, they will end up loading the same patterns).
They can't be synonyms. For 8-bit engines conventional as well as
experimental patterns need to be available.
* LuaTeX:
Load experimental patterns from new language.dat.lua, by default.
Make them available as traditional languages 'german' and
'ngerman'.
We can easily make the situation the same as for XeTeX, which is the best
solution now IMO. In the entries for (n)german-x, I can just add txthyph nd
txtpatt fields, so that the plain text version from hyph-utf8 is used. That way,
german-x-latest will be available under the three engines and mean the same
thing.
Or...
The question is, whether there should be an entry for languages
'german-x-<date>' etc. I'd say no and I'll emphasize in our
documentation, that package dehyph-exptl is not required for
LuaTeX (and XeTeX).
we can desactivate (n)german-x-* in LuaTeX. (Note that in the current state of
things, we're not desactivating it for XeTeX.)
>
Well, your choice. Here, as a co-author of luatex-hyphen, and as a TL developer,
my goal is only to provide solutions (and possibly advice about how they can be
used), but the decision is yours.
Hm, I think I had written this for a reason (other than memory
considerations), but I can't remember any more. OK, let's have pointing
[n]german-x-2009-06-19 with synonym [n]german-x-latest to the
experimental patterns in all engines. Seems a bit easier to grasp when
looking at it in a couple of months again. :)
Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
(off for about a week)
