Hi,
from my side, there is no problem in having the hyphenation patterns
that I created some 20 years ago replaced by newer ones, provided they
are superior. Although the details are fading out, I remember creating
them on the basis of the rules of a well-known grammar book and checking
them against the dictionary, with no errors detected. I'm not sure that
having the possibility of setting (left,right)-hyphenmin to (1,1) is a
real advantage ;)
In any case, I would also like to know which words were not properly
hyphenated with the old set.
Cheers,
Gonçal Badenes
On 19/12/2012 17:18, Jaume Ortolà i Font wrote:
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From: Mojca Miklavec <[email protected]>
Date: 2012/12/19
Subject: Re: [tex-hyphen] new Catalan hyphenation patterns
To: "About TeX hyphenation patterns." <[email protected]>
Cc: Gonçal Badenes <[email protected]>
Hello,
thank you very much for your contribution. Just a few more question:
1.) Is it possible to include the list of words from that dictionary
into our repository or is the dictionary closed source?
2.) Do you have any list of words that aren't hyphenated properly with
the old set of patterns? A list of differences would be very helpful.
3.) One thing that I would like to avoid is having multiple
hyphenation patterns in the repository. From that perspective I would
be very very very grateful if Gonçal Badenes, the author of original
patterns, would provide some feedback, and if you could both agree
about which patterns are de-facto superior (maybe he also has some
suggestions about your list). The reason why this is so important is
that people will continue to use \usepackage[catalan]{babel} (or
whatever alternative they use to load Catalan patterns) and we would
either have to drop the old patterns and replace them with yours. Or
create a new language name (\usepackage[catalannew]{babel} or
something obscure like this) which people won't be using at the end.
If we choose to replace the old patterns it would be very nice to have
the original author's blessing.
So - is there any chance to get some feedback from the original author?
Mojca
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Jaume Ortolà i Font wrote:
Hi,
I have created a new Catalan hyphenation file (see attachment).
The new patterns have been checked against a dictionary (Gran Diccionari de
la Llengua Catalana, Enciclopèdia Catalana, www.diccionari.cat), with 100%
valid results. The patterns cover all the exceptions, except for one word
that can be hyphenated in two ways depending on its meaning (àcid
per-iò-dic, un pe-ri-ò-dic). There remain a dozen rare words that are
unclear even for the mentioned dictionary redactors, which I have consulted.
(left,right)-hyphenmin can be now (1,1), which allows valid hyphenations
like "l'e-mulació", although "e-mulació" is generally undesirable and
avoided.
The current Catalan hyphenation file contains 895 patterns, and the new one
1499.
Please, mention my contribution as "Jaume Ortolà i Font, 2012
(www.riuraueditors.cat), [email protected]".
These patterns are already being distributed in other formats
(Libre/OpenOffice).
Regards,
Jaume Ortolà
www.riuraueditors.cat
