Dear Arthur,
Thank you very much for you answer.
> That’s great!  Is it related to the earlier effort by Robert Ermers> 
>(https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-hyphen/2025-June/001943.html)?
No
> Berik does not need to do anything---other than sending us the pattern> 
> file---however I am not aware of any LaTeX 8-bit encoding that supports
> Kazakh, so that unless there is a pressing need to use it with pdfTeX
> we’ll make it a UTF-8-only language

I'd like to test my patterns with pdflatex. How can I use conv-utf8-t2a.tex?Can 
you give me instructions for it?I'm sufficiently familiar with LaTeX: 
https://ctan.org/author/tuleuovI've also created Kazakh style file for babelMy 
patterns work with XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX by polyglossia

Best regards,
Beri Tuleuov
    On Thursday, February 19, 2026 at 02:50:55 AM GMT+5, Arthur Rosendahl 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     Hi Karl, Berik, and all,

On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 09:33:20AM -0700, Karl Berry wrote:
> Hi Arthur, Mojca, and all. Berik Tuleuov, cc'd, has created patterns for
> the Kazakh language, using UTF-8.

  That’s great!  Is it related to the earlier effort by Robert Ermers
(https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-hyphen/2025-June/001943.html)?

> 1) can hyph-utf8 automatically generate the 8-bit versions for pdf(la)tex,
> or does he need to do this?

  Berik does not need to do anything---other than sending us the pattern
file---however I am not aware of any LaTeX 8-bit encoding that supports
Kazakh, so that unless there is a pressing need to use it with pdfTeX
we’ll make it a UTF-8-only language.

> 2) how best to integrate the new patterns into hyph-utf8? Should Berik
> upload his work to CTAN as a separate package, and you'll take it from
> there, or do you prefer to just take it from elsewhere? Or what?

  Please just send the patterns you have, we’ll take it from there.

> BTW, it would be nice if the README, or something, described the process
> you prefer for new patterns. Or maybe it's already there and I missed it.

  There is in the top-level README.md (“just contact us”).  We don’t
have any preference.  The README on CTAN dates from the very beginnings
of hyph-utf8 and I’ve been meaning to update it for quite a while.

    Best,

        Arthur
  

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