On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Don Simons wrote:

> I'm not aware of any hard and fast rules for this.  My rule of thumb is to
> put one in if I as a player would have a tendency to play the accidental
> wrong.  From an analytical standpoint, you can look and see if the
> naturalized tonality has already somehow been established, in which case
> there would be less motivation to use one.  I have found that often if I
> would tend to play the accidental wrong it is precisely because a new
> tonality has not been clearly established.
>

This is exactly my philosophy too.  Regardless of any 'rules', if the
player gets it wrong, help him/her/it out.

> While we're on the subject of modern accidental conventions, let me ask for
> opinions (or facts) about whether an accidental in one octave of a
> single-voice part is supposed to apply to other octaves.  I had always
> thought that according to modern convention it did not...that an explicit
> accidental was needed in the other octave.  But I've recently been reading
> some 19th and 20th century clarinet music in which it is obviously assumed
> that the accidental does apply to other octaves (in the same measure, of
> course).
>
> --Don Simons

I also think this is correct, the implied accidental does not
travel across octaves !  I think it would be crazy if it did. You
might imagine a piano piece with an accidental high in the treble
register, and the player has to somehow figure out that the same
note 28 octaves away in the bass is also accidentalized.  Too hard !

cheers
Neil

>
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:23 AM
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> > Subject: [TeX-music] Cautionary natural signs
> >
> >
> > Hello everyone, and all the best for a happy New Year to you all!
> >
> > I'd like to solicit a few opinions about the use of cautionary
> > accidentals. Published scores that I own seem to vary wildly between
> > the extremes of putting in as many cautionary naturals as they can (up
> > to and including notating an F natural if the F was sharped two bars
> > before) and assuming that players will need no reminder that a bar
> > line cancels all previous accidentals.
> >
> > With so many contradictory examples of How It's Done, I'm never sure
> > what to do myself when typesetting scores. My personal preference is
> > for keeping the cautionary naturals to an absolute minimum, but it
> > would be interesting to know what other people prefer. What do you
> > prefer to play from -- lots of cautionary signs, or the opposite? Or
> > -- unlikely from the examples I've looked at, but possible, I suppose
> > -- is there actually a hard-and-fast rule for putting the things in?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any input
> > Eva

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