Hi Bodo! On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 09:21:47PM +0000, Bodo Meissner wrote: > If I understand it correct, this means at the start of a melisma > musixlyr does not know the position of the ending note of this melisma.
Indeed. > Avoiding or reducing collision was not my primary intention, although > the left justification leads to more collisions. > > IMHO it does not look good if long syllables are left justified at a > melisma while normally syllables are centered at single notes, even > without collisions. Well, this is apparently a matter of taste; my model for musixlyr's behaviour was engraved music where I've never seen anything else than left-justified melisma syllables. But I agree that this becomes a problem where the syllable is wider than the melismatic note sequence, as in the "Gscheit" example; centering the syllable under the whole melisma phrase seems to be a reasonable alternative. > > You may either resort to a generally wider music spacing (e.g. by > > requesting a greater \linegoal) or, if that's not feasible, by manual > > corrections to the lyrics or notes spacing. > > I think I will use manual corrections if necessary, because I have to > fulfill two somewhat contradictory requirements: Use as little pages as > possible to avoid turning over the pages while singing and use large > text and notes size because several choir members' eyesight is not so > good. I know; I often had the same target conflict when preparing choir music ... Manual tweaking is hardly avoidable here. > Would it be possible to implement the placing of a syllable below a > group of notes as follows? > At the start of a melisma save the current position and the syllable. > If the end of the melisma is reached and the syllable is not yet > placed, try to center it below the group of notes. Objection: Consider long melismas, like baroque 'Koloraturen' (don't know the English word) which may easily span more than one line. Centering the syllable unter the melisma would place it too far away from the melisma beginning, i.e. when you start singing the phrase, you haven't seen the syllable yet. Therefore, IMO centering should be restricted to a certain (configurable) melisma phrase width which should normally apply to 2-notes melismas only. > If a line break is reached and the syllable is not yet placed, try to > center it below the notes from the start of the melisma up to the last > note before the line break. Start a line or hyphens (lyrrule) at the > first note after the line break until end of melisma. > If the note spacing up to the current note is wider then the space > needed for the syllable, left justify the syllable at the saved > position of the first note. Continue with line or hyphens (lyrrule) > until end of melisma. > (If there is a collision on the left side, the syllable must be shifted > to the right as usual.) I see what you're aiming at. I agree it should be feasible to delay the syllable placement until the ending position of the melisma phrase is known, but I keep insisting that making the syllable placement dependent on subsequent syllables is too complicated. I'll put your suggestion on the wish list, but please don't ask when it will be implemented ... :-) Should you become impatient, please feel free to go ahead yourself! Best regards, Rainer _______________________________________________ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
