I found this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_scorewriters 
helpful.  I thought I was compiling with tex, since that was the option 
selected in TeXshop, only to find out it was still using pdftex.  Something 
with the mac distro makes it default to pdflatex, even when told to compile it 
with tex.  It is amazing I was able to get any output at all.

Thank you all. I will respectfully bow out of this discussion and stop hitting 
the hornets nest further. :)

Kristopher

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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:37:26 -0500
> From: "K. Wieland" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Beginer question - lines run off the page
>       without manual breaks
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> All,
> 
> Thank you for the responses.  In my defense I did read the manual (which is 
> obvious since I couldn't have coded the music without it!) .  I found it 
> helpful most of the time.  I didn't find the suggestion to purchase a $600 
> software to do this "simple" job.  I don't know enough about using PMX as a 
> preprocessor - I'm a beginner, remember :). 
> 
> Is there a way to configure TexShop to do the three part compile?  And why 
> wouldn't the examples compile out of the box?  If they needed a package, why 
> didn't the compiler state that.  I've attached the compile error.
> 
> Is there a way to fix (the manual, the distribution, ???) so that others can 
> compile without much hassles?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kristopher
> 
> 
> ./avemarix.tex:4: LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}.
> 
> See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
> Type  H <return>  for immediate help.
> ...                                              
> 
> l.4 \fulltitle{M
>                \'editation -- Ave Maria}
> ? 
>              {M\'editation -- Ave Maria}
> ? 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:56:26 +0000
> From: David Allsopp <[email protected]>
> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Beginer question - lines run off the page
>       without manual breaks
> Message-ID:
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> K. Wieland wrote:
>> All,
>> 
>> Thank you for the responses. ?In my defense I did read the manual
>> (which is obvious since I couldn't have coded the music without 
>> it!). ?I found it helpful most of the time. ?
> 
> Yes, but you didn't seem to have read the introduction or you'd have found 
> out about musixflx ;o)
> 
>> I didn't find the suggestion to purchase a $600 software to do this "simple" 
>> job.
> 
> I'm certainly not a Sibelius salesperson (especially as someone who has to 
> pay the full whack for it), but if you're teaching then you're entitled to a 
> massive discount. My point was that it took literally 2 minutes to enter your 
> example into it and even an experienced TeXnician could not enter (and with 
> 100% accuracy) that MusiXTeX input at the same time. It's also a lot easier 
> if you're composing to use a processor rather than a setter as you can make 
> changes considerably faster.
> 
>> I don't know enough about using PMX as a preprocessor - I'm a beginner, 
>> remember :).
> 
> I've never used it (simply because I use MusiXTeX as output from more complex 
> programs so I don't need yet another pre-processor on top of mine!), but 
> there's a lot of documentation and copious examples, not to mention its 
> author on this list if you get stuck!
> 
>> Is there a way to configure TexShop to do the three part compile? ?
> 
> Afraid I can't help you there - 
> http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/documentation.html seems to have a 
> fantastic lack of documentation about TeXShop itself and I don't have a Mac 
> to be able to see if there's any online documentation.
> 
>> And why wouldn't the examples compile out of the box? ?If they needed a 
>> package,
>> why didn't the compiler state that.?I've attached the compile error.
> 
> The examples do compile out the box (including the transcript in your message 
> revealed what you were doing incorrectly) - you're using LaTeX when they're 
> written in plain ole TeX. Remember that it's MusiXTeX not MusiXLaTeX - the 
> primary driver for this program is intended to be tex (the .sty file just 
> adds an environment: the idea is that you'd only use MusixTeX with LaTeX for 
> typesetting musical examples - MusiXTeX's manual, for example) so you simply 
> need to compile with tex (or pdftex) instead of latex (or pdflatex). In 
> general, it's a good idea to write scores using tex only - one of the 
> extensions (musixsty) contains a few macros for doing common things like 
> titles and so on which you may miss without LaTeX commands being available. 
> 
>> Is there a way to fix (the manual, the distribution, ???) so that others can 
>> compile without much hassles?
> 
> The manual is fine - read page 5 where it says "tex jobname" :o)
> 
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 20:29:25 +0100
> From: "Christof Hesse" <[email protected]>
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Beginer question - lines run off the page
>       without manual breaks
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hello Kristopher,
> there is no simple way for musixtex.
> 
> you must have musixtxex inyour tex- path and another program musiflx (a C- 
> prgram) on your computer. There is a 2- path approach: once a *.tex- file, 
> then musixflx "texfile", then latex or tex XXX.Tex, then you get a *.dvi -- 
> file which can be read for instance by kdvi.
> 
> Regards Christof
> 
>> 
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:37:26 -0500
>> Von: "K. Wieland" <[email protected]>
>> An: [email protected]
>> Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] Beginer question - lines run off the page 
>> without      manual breaks
>> 
>>        All,        
>>        Thank you for the responses. ?In my defense I did read the 
>> manual (which is obvious since I couldn't have coded the music without 
>> it!) . ?I found it helpful most of the time. ?I didn't find the 
>> suggestion to purchase a $600 software to do this "simple" job. ?I don't 
>> know enough about using PMX as a preprocessor - I'm a beginner, remember 
>> :).?        
>>        Is there a way to configure TexShop to do the three part compile? 
>> ?And why wouldn't the examples compile out of the box? ?If they needed 
>> a package, why didn't the compiler state that. ?I've attached the 
>> compile error.        
>>        Is there a way to fix (the manual, the distribution, ???) so that 
>> others can compile without much hassles?        
>>        Thanks,        Kristopher        
>> 
>>                ./avemarix.tex:4: LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}.  
>> 
>>        See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.        
>> Type? H <return>? for immediate help.        ?... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?        
>> 
>> ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
>> ?
>>        l.4 \fulltitle{M        ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? \'editation -- 
>> Ave Maria}        ??        ? ? ? ? ? ? ? {M\'editation -- Ave 
>> Maria}        ??                
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:12:53 +0100 (Paris, Madrid)
> From: Jean-Pierre Coulon <[email protected]>
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Beginer question - lines run off the page
>       without manual breaks
> Message-ID: <alpine.WNT.2.00.1102100704250.212@BecaneCoulon>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, K. Wieland wrote:
> 
>> Thank you for the responses. ?In my defense I did read the manual (which is
>> obvious since I couldn't have coded the music without it!) . ?I found it 
>> helpful
>> most of the time. ?I didn't find the suggestion to purchase a $600 software 
>> to do
>> this "simple" job. ?I don't know enough about using PMX as a preprocessor - 
>> I'm a
>> beginner, remember :).
> 
> This comparison page could help you to choose the right notation program - 
> free or not - WYSIWYG or not - :
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_scorewriters
> 
> Jean-Pierre Coulon                  [email protected]
> 
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