Andre, your suggestion certainly does put the b4 more to the right, aligning it 
with the other staff as if it were the last note of a simultaneous sextuplet. 
If you wanted the b to be half as long as one of the triplet notes, you would 
probably want to use that notation. 



But let’s be clear that that was never the objective of the F-tuplet 
applications that Christian brought up and that I addressed in the previous two 
posts. He wanted to typeset Bach’s dotted notation for a long and short note 
that align with the first and third notes in a triplet in the other staff. And 
then he simply wanted to replace the first note of the two with a rest. When he 
tried that as an F-tuplet with PMX 2.82, it went through OK and lined up as 
desired, but the dot on the rest was missing. 2 posts ago I pointed out that as 
it now stands, PMX 2.83 will add the dot, but will not let you adjust the 
height of the dotted rest. Then the last post showed a work-around if you DO 
want to change the height of the dotted rest, all the while keeping the same 
horizontal spacing.

 

--Don

 

From: TeX-Music [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andre Van 
Ryckeghem
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 8:46 PM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Upcoming PMX

 

Perhaps, the ‘b4’ in  r4Fx3nf+3 b4 c4 / should be more to the right.

 

This could also be an solution for the rare cases:

 

r4+2Dx6n r+5D r-2 b4 c4 /

 

Andre

 

 

 

From: Don Simons 

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 8:03 PM

To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' 

Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Upcoming PMX

 

I’d like to point out that the notes in the F-tuplet I discussed earlier could 
be typeset without using the F-option at all, but with a horizontal shift 
instead. Then if you wanted to raise the rest you could use the standard 
command.

 

--Don

 



----------------------

2 1 2 4 2 4 0 0

0 3 20 0

 

bt

.\

AbeK

w6i

g43x3n-1 f g  a /

r4Fx3nf+3 b4 c4 /

g43x3n-1 f g  a /

rd8 X:-1 b14 X: c4 /

g43x3n-1 f g  a /

rd8+4 X:-1 b14 X: c4 /

----------------------

 

 

 

From: TeX-Music [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Simons
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:09 AM
To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>
Subject: [Tex-music] Upcoming PMX

 

I’m very close to releasing a new version of PMX reflecting various fixes 
requested by Andre and Christian over the last several weeks. Before 
finalizing, I’d like some opinions about how far to go with one of them. 
Christian has used some constructions like r4Fx3 b. With notes, this gives a 
dotted eighth followed by a sixteenth, horizontally spaced as if they were the 
first and third notes in a triplet. (It’s a very, very rare notation used by 
Bach, and no one else I know of). Christian pointed out that when starting with 
a rest, for consistency the rest should be dotted. I’ve worked out a way to get 
PMX to do that. The problem is that my band-aid coding is guaranteed to fail if 
you try to raise or lower the (now dotted) rest from the default, midstaff 
position. The problem occurs either if you try to raise it manually, or if PMX 
tries to do it internally as a result of the global AK option for keyboard rest 
positioning in 2-voice staves. 

 

The question is whether I should expend the considerable additional programming 
effort needed to make this extremely rare construction work in the doubly rare 
case where the dotted rest would need to be raised or lowered.

 

--Don

 



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