On 2018-05-21 15:48, David Allsopp wrote:

The ideal would be for MusiXTeX to be capable of treating it in both ways - as an alternate symbol *or* as an actual clef in its own right. For example, in the singing example Dirk gives of a descant sung by either Soprano or Tenor, the alternate symbol for treble
clef is the appropriate route (so middle C remains below the bottom
of the stave; as it happens, it would be more common in printed vocal
music to use a bracketed (8) treble clef for this). However, for a large-ranged alto part which may begin in normal treble clef but
then switch to octave "tenor" clef later, the position of middle C
really should alter from being below the stave to being on it. At
that point, you want to be able to select the octave treble clef as
a genuine clef.

One example of wide range parts is (some movements from) 'Die Kunst der
Fuge' by J. S. Bach (BWV 1080). This is where MusiXTeX et al fell short
in my project on providing a 'contemporized' edition based on the PMX
engraving by the late Werner Icking.

https://imslp.org/wiki/Die_Kunst_der_Fuge,_BWV_1080_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)#Complete_3#504803

In a context like that it's crucial that the treble- and treblelowoct clefs are handled as separate clefs regarding default octave and clef changes between the two.

Eventually I gave up my initial M-Tx/PMX coding in favour of another
open source engraving solution, MUP. I agree with Don that a regular
treblelowoct clef must be added to MusiXTeX in order to get a working
PMX engraving of music like BWV1080.

Greetings
--
Christian Mondrup
WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files
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