Praise Bob and thanks to Roger, we now have an answer.
I used to have a Church of The SubGenius t-shirt with Bob on the front with his always present pipe and omnipotent smile. I think my kids stole it. Somewhere, I have a picture of myself wearing said shirt while posing in front of the Eiffel Tower. Doing my part to spread the Gospel of Bob and to instill the Art of Slack while I was in Europe. Thanks for the Enlightenment (and memories!), Mark From: caverarch [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:38 AM To: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: caver ministers (WAS Honey Creek Cave) Mark, Gill and I (and maybe George) became "ordained" by the Universal Life Church back in the late Sixties for the price of a small, volunteer donation. The church was set up - or at least attempted to be used, but unsuccessfully - as a draft-dodging tool under the draft laws of that Viet Nam time. I joined out of general religous/anti-religious contrariness, as did many others, after it was apparent this ordination was useless for avoiding the draft. But it remained popular with 20-something curmudgeons like myself for some years thereafter. Our intent is now fulfilled for the general curmudgeonly public by such better elaborated theologies for deities such as Bob and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Oztotl arose from the mists of the Mayan past for Texas cavers around the same as our ordination, and in Florida we were promoting The Great Newt as a caver deity. I prefer to think of the status as "insub-ordination." Roger Moore -----Original Message----- From: Mark.Alman <[email protected]> To: George D. Nincehelser <[email protected]>; caverarch <[email protected]> Cc: jkennedy <[email protected]>; lissa_000777 <[email protected]>; Texascavers <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2012 6:14 am Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: caver ministers (WAS Honey Creek Cave) To all of us fellow unwashed and clueless folks out here, What are y’all talking about?! Signed, Curious a.k.a Mark A. From: George D. Nincehelser [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]?> ] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:08 AM To: caverarch Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: caver ministers (WAS Honey Creek Cave) [I'm rejoining the list after years of being absent] I'm one. I'm not savvy on all the details, but there was ruckus among the leadership a while back. Some records were lost. If you're unsure of your credentials, you should verify them now before you really need them. I'm not sure if the schism has healed or not. George On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:41 AM, caverarch <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I, too, have an old Universal Life Church ordination certificate obtained during my undergraduate days, but god know how long it would take me to find it! Roger Moore -----Original Message----- From: Jim Kennedy <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: Lissa Talkington <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; Texascavers <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2012 4:57 am Subject: [Texascavers] RE: caver ministers (WAS Honey Creek Cave) There are at least three that I know of. Myself, Gill Ediger, and Jean Krejca. --- Jim “Crash” Kennedy From: Lissa Talkington [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]?> ] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:47 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honeycreek Trip Feb 11-12 Is anyone in this crew Ordained? Or have whatever legal requirement there is to Officiate a marriage ? =p
