I don't want to beat this dead horse into the ground, but as a so-called
"young caver" I felt the need to put in my .02.

I like the Cavetex listserv. I also like Facebook. But I want to keep the
two separate. There are places (such as my office) where it would be very
innappropriate to be seen surfing facebook, but pulling up my Gmail account
a few times a day, checking email, and responding to email isn't a big deal.
Getting cavetex emails isn't an inconvenience...in fact, it's easier. I DO
care about WNS, geology, caving gates, etc, but if I don't, or if an email
is boring, I can just delete that one message, instead of "blocking" a whole
group or category.

Also, facebook has too many distractions! I get invited to lots of events--I
don't want caving trips lumped in with birthday parties, concerts, group
events, and all the other "events" I get invited to on facebook. I don't
care about most of those--I do care about caving trip invites, tho, and
don't want to miss them! Also, on Facebook, news can get lost in a mix of
random information. I check my "news feed" to see what everyone is doing,
and then quickly surf through a few profiles I typically check. I *might*
look at friends' pictures (you know who you are, since you are on cavetex as
well, fellow "young cavers"). :) But I honestly think serious news would be
lost in the chaos of 600+ "friends" and their updates.

The major problem I personally have with cavetex is that very few people
actually post invitations to trips! Crash, I know you do, and I know a
handful of others do, but cavers, if you have room on caving trips, please
let everyone know! We in Houston are desperate to get underground, and are
actively looking for opportunities to do so. Please let us know about
trips--we'd all love to come!

-Mallory Mayeux
GHG Secretary, and bona-fide "young caver"
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:20 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:

> As I said, it was just an experiment.    The site Jim mentioned was
> immediately deleted less than 15 minutes after it was created.   I was
> only trying to show
> a few cavers what it was I was experimenting with.
>
> What I am getting at and that nobody is listening, is that young
> potential cavers ( in general ) will not use listserves.    They don't
> want to be bombarded with
> e-mails about WNS, Cave geology, gating caves, or any of the other
> so-called real caving stuff.
>
> The age of the average CaveTex user is getting older and older, and it
> will die, whether or not I am posting anything.
>
> The majority of cavers in Texas ( around 1,000 ) don't want to have
> anything to do with CaveTex.
>
> I did not ruin CaveTex.    Lots of other cavers have posted things
> that 99 % of us did not want to receive.
>
> I emphasize that Facebook is just a fad, like the pet rock.    But it
> has potential for the time-being to educate potential cavers.
>
> David Locklear
>
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