Thank you, ladies! I love having knowledgeable friends. Now, anyone else out there know the load capacity of a barrel designed to hold 400# of grease or water (462#)? I'm used to ratings at 110% of intended load but these barrels obviously hold much more than that, at least 6-700#.
Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com ________________________________ From: "vivb...@att.net" <vivb...@att.net> To: Mimi Jasek <mjca...@gmail.com> Cc: Cavers Texas <texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] KIWI SINK Report grease and oil are relatively light. 5 gals of water would be closer to 42 lbs 5 gals of broken up limestone weighs about 60 lbs 5 gals of solid limestone would be more like 114 lbs. Soil would be somewhere between water and gravel. How do I know this? Landscape Architecture is my trade. rocks and dirt are my game. But I just googled the conversions. -Viv --- On Mon, 2/25/13, Mimi Jasek <mjca...@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Mimi Jasek <mjca...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] KIWI SINK Report > To: "lmcn...@austin.rr.com" <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> > Cc: "Gill Edigar" <gi...@att.net>, "Cavers Texas" > <texascavers@texascavers.com> > Date: Monday, February 25, 2013, 10:36 PM > Logan, > > Not too personal at all. What I've learned could prove > useful to others. > > The company I work for does 90-95% of their business selling > all kinds of lubricants to industry, farmers, machinists, > etc. So, by necessity, I've had to learn things that have > actually carried over into normal life. > > For caving and digging, knowing specs about barrels, kegs, > and pails has proved quite helpful. > > Barrel = 11-5 gal pails = average 400# > 5 gal pail > = 35# of oil > > or gear > lube > 5 gal pail > = 38# grease > > Or, if totally full or half full, using 40# and 20# works as > a good average overall. Easier head math! > > So, with these facts, if dirt is dry and fluffy, oil weight > could work. If wet with rocks, grease weight would be > better. Keep track of pails, or barrels, and you get an idea > of weight removed. If using 2 gal pails, again, keep track > total pails, multiply by 2, divide by 5, then use 35 or 38 > to multiply to get approximate weight. (Or 40) > > I have used this method - counter works well - on digs, and > it gives you a real sense of accomplishment to figure how > many tons you pull out each dig trip! > > So, that's how and why I know:) > > Mimi > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 25, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Logan McNatt <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> > wrote: > > > Thanks Mimi, > > Terry wrote me that "we are well over 100 > dump truck loads at 7-8 tons each". Wow! > > > > Not intending to get too personal here, Mimi, but why > do you know that "a normal barrel of grease weighs > 400#"? You can reply off-list if needed. > > ;-) > > Lowgun > > > > > > On 2/25/2013 1:07 AM, Mimi Jasek wrote: > > > > Logan, > > A normal barrel of grease weighs 400#, and the often > times wet dirt plus rocks that have been in most barrels > that have been hauled out when we helped dig weighed that or > more. > > > > I think the first one we helped with saw either 10 or > 14 barrels come out. So at a minimum of 400#, that dig alone > netted more than 2 tons! I truly think Gill probably gets > around a ton or more for each 5 barrels, not counting the > huge rocks brought out singly. Truly an awesome > project! Mimi Jasek > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Gill replied: We were estimating 300 to 600 > pounds. But Terry has an in-line > > scale we could hang up to measure them. Will try to > remember to haul it > > over and weigh a half dozen of so of > them. --Ediger > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Logan McNatt <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> > wrote: > > Gill, Thanks for the report. Can you estimate an > average weight for each barrel of fill hauled out? > Just wondering if y'all have an idea of the approximate > tonnage (fill and rocks) that you have removed since the dig > began? > > Logan > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On 2/24/2013 9:01 PM, Gill Edigar wrote: KIWI SINK Dig > Report--Sunday 24 February 2013--Andrew and I arrived at > > a quarter o'ten and got a status report on Kiwi's > garden plot. Then we > > attacked the pit. Our immediate objective was to reduce > everything > > above floor level to about that level before we try to > break into the > > new underfloor passage opened up by Erin a couple of > weeks ago. That > > is to be done so that the many yards of loose fill > don't fall into the > > new lead whilst we're removing them. Currently we have > the lead > > protected with plywood to minimizing infilling from the > higher areas > > adjacent to the floor lead. Today we filled up 6-1/2 > barrels and > > hauled out 6 of um. Then hoisted 3 or 4 lifts of rocks, > some in > > tandem, before we had a mechanical malfunction with the > jin-poles on > > the rear of the truck. 2 or 3 rocks remain to be > raised. Many suitcase > > sized rocks were excavated, loosened, and prepared for > removal. Most > > made the transition to the surface; a few are still > awaiting another > > session or two of backfill removal that will be needed > before we can > > open up Erin's floor lead to see where it goes. A > rather large > > contingent of cavers showed up today, many without > caving gear. The > > list of diggers: > > > > Dale Barnard > > Don Broussard > > Erin Brown > > Andrew Davison > > Gill Ediger > > Chris Franke > > Ryan Monjaras > > John Schneider > > Terry Raines drove the truck and ran the hoist. > > > > ...and visitors: > > Leslie Bell > > Jay Jorden > > RD Milhollan > > Andy Gluesenkamp > > > > Today was very productive. > > --Gill Ediger > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
