First, WOW! Huge news. Mark, you got your life back, and Jill, you just lost a 
lot of yours. Been there, done that, as they say:) Luck, good thoughts, and 
congrats to both of you.

Where do we now submit articles?

Second, we are not on fb either, and for anything of importance for Texas 
cavers, especially for PAID members of the TSA, there should be an e-mail list 
of those members who receive such news before any other posting. 

I know cavers not on fb for both personal and professional reasons, and some 
not on cavetex. But they do have e-mail. I have been frustrated by posts on 
cavetex that mention fb pages to check out for info that I would have liked to 
have read/seen, but was excluded simply because I value my privacy.

Post to cavetex too:) Seems fair. But TSA news should go to members first, or 
at least at the same time. Surely some officer is in charge of informing 
members of such important news?

Sorry. Hate cliques, and don't like being excluded from something I pay to be a 
part of. Who does or would?

Mimi Jasek

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net> wrote:

>         I'm certainly not on Facebook.  This is big news and certainly worthy 
> of an announcement on Texascavers.  I presume something will be forthcoming.  
> I knew Mark Alman had expressed a desire to pass the hat, but I didn't think 
> it would happen so quickly.  Congratulations to all!
> 
> Mark
> 
> At 01:41 PM 6/19/2012, Lyndon Tiu wrote:
>> I see not everyone is on Facebook to hear about it :(
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM,  <jerryat...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > A new editor for the TxCvr ? Â Anyone want to elaborate on this new
>> > development ?
>> >
>> > Jerry.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Jun 19, 2012, at 6:29 AM, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > And forward the trip report to Jill Orr, the new editor of The Texas 
>> > Caver!!
>> >
>> > -h
>> >
>> > On 18 June 2012 21:44, David Ochel <li...@ochel.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> How about a trip report for a change? It was just meant for Ben and
>> >> Terry's records and is thus lacking some context that is known to them,
>> >> but better than nothing, I suppose... ;-)
>> >>
>> >> The attachment referred to below can be found here:
>> >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10593174/CM%20Cave%20Climb%202012-06-09.png 
>> >>
>> >> -David
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>> >> Subject: CM Cave Climb 2012-06-09
>> >> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:22:10 -0500
>> >> From: David Ochel <d...@ochel.net>
>> >>
>> >> Hola,
>> >>
>> >> So this is my first attempt at using my iPad to sketch something. Let me
>> >> know if you think it's what you want for your records or not.
>> >>
>> >> Matt and Saj Zapp. helped me drag gear in, and Matt belayed me. The
>> >> actual climb (6 bolts, plus a seventh to make it more convenient to get
>> >> back down) took about 2 hours, I'd say? I climbed up to that about 40
>> >> degree sloped, maybe 2 meters deep shelf, too steep to scramble up,
>> >> which was covered in about 10-20 cm of crusted mud and would have been a
>> >> pain to set bolts in. At that time, it was apparent that there wasn't
>> >> any promising lead. That little vertical infeeder to the side had some
>> >> small formations in it and looked very much like it would be too small
>> >> to get into, although I have to admit that I decided that it wasn't
>> >> worth the pain and risk to actually make it over there and look up it to
>> >> be sure. So, I'm maybe a 96 % sure that it's not passable. All in all,
>> >> the rock was relatively shitty. The typical for that cave (I guess?)
>> >> limestone with pockets of soft sandstone-like filling.
>> >>
>> >> Feel free to forward this to Cavetex if you like.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> David
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