texascavers Digest 24 Feb 2012 00:09:33 -0000 Issue 1505
Topics (messages 19629 through 19635):
Re: Cost of Rabies Shots
19629 by: Stefan Creaser
19630 by: caverarch
Announcement: June 2012 cave and karst classes!
19631 by: George Veni
Further to the rabies discussion
19632 by: Louise Power
Springtails at -2,000 m
19633 by: Sam Young
19634 by: Louise Power
19635 by: Logan McNatt
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Bad curry?
-Stefan
From: caverarch [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cost of Rabies Shots
That is where I caught a mysterious ailment that didn't manifest itself until
the day after I was back in Houston. Three days later I was in hospital in an
induced coma and on a respirator with pneumonia and sepsis. I came close
enough to checking out that my kids were summoned home from college for a few
days, and I didn't get out of the hospital for 5 1/2 weeks. I have honestly
not been the same since.
Roger G. Moore
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From: Lyndon Tiu <[email protected]>
To: caverarch <[email protected]>
Cc: egelsone <[email protected]>; ac <[email protected]>; texascavers
<[email protected]>; stephen.gutting <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cost of Rabies Shots
What happened to you in London?
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:54 PM, caverarch
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I got a similar pre-exposure immunization to that which Allan refers from a
> Houston travel medicine service prior to a trip to Belize in 2001. It was
> added to a standard tropical infectious diseases package after I mentioned
> that I would be caving. The price for the co-pay on the whole lot wasn't
> prohibitive or I would have gone without.
>
> As it turned out, Belize didn't kill me, but London nearly did. :-(
>
> Roger G. Moore
>
>
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Nah, bad bug of some kind, and the infectious disease folks at the hospital
were given to fits of speculation due to my presumed exposure to global people
from various hotbeds of contagion on the Metro. (Mind the gap!) Bird flu was
high on the list of things they feared, and I was in a high level of isolation
that required my family visitors (all I could have at that point) to suit up
fully since I was a barely living biohazard. They tested for a number of
things (including histo), and were never able to identify the initial
infectious agent. The bacteria for the pneumonia and sepsis were run of the
mill for that sort of thing, but they were sure that I caught something viral
that caused me to crater so quickly.
I was aware of none of this for some time, because I was kept on a respirator
and in the induced coma for nine days. This ended abruptly when I woke up
prematurely and "excavated" myself. That is the term for the removal of the
breathing tubes, and I did it by simply pulling them out and asking "WTF?" to
the panicked nurse who found me. To pull the tubes out like that is a
dangerous thing in itself, and I actually did it twice; the first time I
remember rather vividly though I had not idea where I was geographically. I
cracked up the doctors as they were preparing to put the tubes back in by
remarking on the radio that was playing in the background. It was pledge time
for KUHF, the local NPR station, and I heard the familiar begging in the
background and said out loud "I'm a public radio supporter." The doctors
laughed. I must be very well trained to spout such in my condition at that
time.
Roger G. Moore
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
To: caverarch <[email protected]>; ltiu <[email protected]>
Cc: texascavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 10:53 am
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Cost of Rabies Shots
Bad curry?
-Stefan
From: caverarch [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cost of Rabies Shots
That is where I caught a mysterious ailment that didn't manifest itself until
the day after I was back in Houston. Three days later I was in hospital in an
induced coma and on a respirator with pneumonia and sepsis. I came close
enough to checking out that my kids were summoned home from college for a few
days, and I didn't get out of the hospital for 5 1/2 weeks. I have honestly
not been the same since.
Roger G. Moore
-----Original Message-----
From: Lyndon Tiu <[email protected]>
To: caverarch <[email protected]>
Cc: egelsone <[email protected]>; ac <[email protected]>; texascavers
<[email protected]>; stephen.gutting <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cost of Rabies Shots
What happened to you in London?
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:54 PM, caverarch <[email protected]> wrote:
> I got a similar pre-exposure immunization to that which Allan refers from a
> Houston travel medicine service prior to a trip to Belize in 2001. It was
> added to a standard tropical infectious diseases package after I mentioned
> that I would be caving. The price for the co-pay on the whole lot wasn't
> prohibitive or I would have gone without.
>
> As it turned out, Belize didn't kill me, but London nearly did. :-(
>
> Roger G. Moore
>
>
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Dear Friends,
Below is an announcement of some excellent cave and karst classes that will
be taught this June. Most will be taught in Kentucky, but one will be
offered in the Ozarks and NCKRI's Dr. Lewis Land will teach the geophysics
course at NCKRI Headquarters in Carlsbad, New Mexico. Please forward this to
anyone you think may be interested and contact Dr. North below for more
information.
George
----------------------------------------------------
Western Kentucky University's Hoffman Environmental Research Institute
through its Center for Cave and Karst Studies and in cooperation with the
Mammoth Cave International Center for Science and Learning is pleased to
announce the launch of the Summer 2012 Karst Field Studies Program. Courses
this summer will include:
- Exploration of Mammoth Cave, June 4-10
- Techniques in Karst Groundwater Investigations, June 6-8
- Karst Hydrogeology of the Ozarks, June 10-16
- Cave Archaeology, June 11-16
- Cave Survey and Cartography, June 17-23
- Application of Geophysical Methods to Karst Terrains, June 16-22
Courses may be taken for graduate, undergraduate, or continuing education
credit. Courses may also be taken as non-credit workshops.
For more information about the program, courses, how to register, and
instructors, please visit <www.karstfieldstudies.com>. While visiting the
website be sure to also check out the "Scholarships" tab for information
about Nick Crawford Karst Education Scholarship, a competitive award
designed to offer financial assistance for attending a course.
If you have any questions please contact the 2012 Karst Field Studies
Director, Dr. Leslie North, at [email protected]..
Chris Groves PhD
WKU Distinguished Professor of Geography Director, Hoffman Environmental
Research Institute Dept. of Geography and Geology, Western Kentucky
University
Bowling Green, KY 42101 USA +1 270 745-5201
***************************
George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
[email protected]
www.nckri.org
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http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/22/10479321-parents-accuse-army-of-criminal-negligence-in-soldiers-rabies-death
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
From: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:20:03 -0500
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cost of Rabies Shots
Nah, bad bug of some kind, and the infectious disease folks at the hospital
were given to fits of speculation due to my presumed exposure to global people
from various hotbeds of contagion on the Metro. (Mind the gap!) Bird flu was
high on the list of things they feared, and I was in a high level of isolation
that required my family visitors (all I could have at that point) to suit up
fully since I was a barely living biohazard. They tested for a number of
things (including histo), and were never able to identify the initial
infectious agent. The bacteria for the pneumonia and sepsis were run of the
mill for that sort of thing, but they were sure that I caught something viral
that caused me to crater so quickly.
I was aware of none of this for some time, because I was kept on a respirator
and in the induced coma for nine days. This ended abruptly when I woke up
prematurely and "excavated" myself. That is the term for the removal of the
breathing tubes, and I did it by simply pulling them out and asking "WTF?" to
the panicked nurse who found me. To pull the tubes out like that is a
dangerous thing in itself, and I actually did it twice; the first time I
remember rather vividly though I had not idea where I was geographically. I
cracked up the doctors as they were preparing to put the tubes back in by
remarking on the radio that was playing in the background. It was pledge time
for KUHF, the local NPR station, and I heard the familiar begging in the
background and said out loud "I'm a public radio supporter." The doctors
laughed. I must be very well trained to spout such in my condition at that
time.
Roger G. Moore
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
To: caverarch <[email protected]>; ltiu <[email protected]>
Cc: texascavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 10:53 am
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Cost of Rabies Shots
Bad curry?
-Stefan
From: caverarch [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cost of Rabies Shots
That is where I caught a mysterious ailment that didn't manifest itself until
the day after I was back in Houston. Three days later
I was in hospital in an induced coma and on a respirator with pneumonia and
sepsis. I came close enough to checking out that my kids were summoned home
from college for a few days, and I didn't get out of the hospital for 5 1/2
weeks. I have honestly not
been the same since.
Roger G. Moore
-----Original Message-----
From: Lyndon Tiu <[email protected]>
To: caverarch <[email protected]>
Cc: egelsone <[email protected]>; ac <[email protected]>; texascavers
<[email protected]>; stephen.gutting <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cost of Rabies Shots
What happened to you in London?
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:54 PM, caverarch <[email protected]> wrote:
> I got a similar pre-exposure immunization to that which Allan refers from a
> Houston travel medicine service prior to a trip to Belize in 2001. It was
> added to a standard tropical infectious diseases package after I mentioned
> that I would be caving. The price for the co-pay on the whole lot wasn't
> prohibitive or I would have gone without.
>
> As it turned out, Belize didn't kill me, but London nearly did. :-(
>
> Roger G. Moore
>
>
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confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient,
please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents
to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information
in any medium. Thank you.
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http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-scientists-deepest-terrestrial-arthropod.html
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Hi Sam,
I noticed at the very beginning of the article the services of a company that
can help you with those pesky critters:
Custom Care Pest Services - If we don't solve your pest problem, it's free! -
www.customcarepest.com
Guaranteed services or it's free. Think they'll go into caves?
Louise
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:16:34 -0600
Subject: [Texascavers] Springtails at -2,000 m
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-scientists-deepest-terrestrial-arthropod.html
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The biologists say that the primary obstacle to studying these mysterious creatures is
that you need "such a long damn net."
On 2/23/2012 10:16 AM, Sam Young wrote:
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-scientists-deepest-terrestrial-arthropod.html
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