texascavers Digest 24 Apr 2011 14:43:07 -0000 Issue 1294
Topics (messages 17630 through 17637):
Mexico news
17630 by: David
fires
17631 by: Gill Edigar
TSA Spring Meeting Minutes
17632 by: Denise P
mars
17633 by: Gill Edigar
sharks video
17634 by: Espeleo Coahuila
New travel warning by State Department
17635 by: David
Thanks
17636 by: Espeleo Coahuila
Re: Editorial on cave closures in Montana
17637 by: Ron Ralph
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Some of you that once traveled south are familiar with the caving area around
Huasteca Canyon.
According to yesterday's news,
in "the area of la Huasteca," that authorities arrested 2 people that were
"cooking" 20 people. The article was very vague as usual.
Another article said the bodies were incinerated using diesel fuel, and the
area was 2.5 kilometers down Huasteca Canyon.
Ref:
http://www.elmanana.com/XStatic/manana/template/notaimprimir.aspx?id=1120376
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Here are 5 aerial photos of fires in Texas & Mexico.
http://galleries.statesman.com/gallery/nasa-satellite-photos-042111/#165926
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Howdy Cavers - Enjoy!
http://cavetexas.org/PDF/TSA/Minutes-2011-04-02.pdf.
Cheers,
Denise
TSA Secretary
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Another closeup shot of the Martian sinkholes.
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wonderful sharks--
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=WK2LpUoqX6A&vq=medium
LCC Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez
San Antonio, Texas
[email protected]
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For any cavers still pondering whether to travel to Mexico to go caving:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5440.html
I am not sure what this says differently from the warning issued in September.
However, it clearly states to avoid the state of Tamaulipas, which some cavers
would drive thru if they were heading to the Sierra Madre area around Ciuidad
Victoria or points further south.
It prohibits Federal employees from certain areas. Included are
areas are in the
state of Jalisco. I states they can't go to Boystown in Laredo.
( Rumors are that place was abandoned by tourist years ago, and
I haven't heard of a caver going there in over 15 years. )
Note federal employees are prohibited from travelling several popular routes
used by cavers in the Monterrey area. It also says very clearly that the
area around the town of San Fernando is dangerous. ( This is the area
that has been in the news lately for the mass graves )
It subtly indicates some of the consulate offices have been downsized to the
point they are no longer functional.
It says to not travel Highway 57 in San Luis Potosi.
It subtly warns not to travel to Cuernavaca, Acapulco, Zihuatanejo, and
the beautiful tourist resort of Ixtapa. But more clearly warns to avoid
Ciudad Juarez, Tijuana, and Puerto Peñasco.
Personally, I think the statement is vague. It does not mention beheadings,
or some of the torture methods, and the public displaying of corpses with
narco-messages, or that the crime is so bad that the criminals are taking
real estate property from people. It doesn't mention all the escaped
convicts. It does not mention the bad guys are heavily armed with
automatic weapons. Nowhere in the article does it describe what the
bad guys look like, so how are you supposed to know how to keep a
watchful eye ? Nor does the article in any way refer the tourist to
the best up to date news sites on the web related to the narco-crime.
It seems designed more to please the Mexican Government, and not
hurt their feelings.
David
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Hello Friends.
2 years ago today, I had surgery of breast Cancer.
I want to tell you Thank you very much for your help and support in all
this time and for the next years to continous my treatment ( 5 years more,
I start the tamoxifen 7 months ago)
I have to travel every 3 months to USA to check up with the doctor at the
Start Center for Cancer Care. Thanks Texas Caver, Thanks Mexican caver,
thanks all friends caver to help me to cross this moment. And friends and
family, Thanks mom.
I consider you part of my life and family, You are welcome to my house,
wherever you need. Thank you for give me an opportunity to live.
--
Monica Ponce
ACEAC
Saltillo, Coah. Mexico
[email protected]
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Cavers,
You might be interested in this note from Mike on Montana cave closing
activities.
Ron
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From: michael mceachern [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:44 AM
To: Art Palmer; Andy Grubbs; Bill Steele; Cooper, John; Cynthia Sandeno;
Dave or Valerie Howell; Dave Bunnell; Dave Cowan; David Caudle; Donna and
Danny Cobb; Donna Mathews; Jane Russell; Jerry Saulsberry; Milo washington;
Peter Sprouse; Philip Rykwalder; Preston Forsythe; Ron Ralph; Steve and Dino
Zeman; Stephen Slocomb; Steve Pitts
Subject: Editorial on cave closures in Montana
There was a nice editorial on cave closures in the Forest Service Northern
Region 1 in the April 22 Missoulian. Comments on the proposed cave closure
can be made to threatened and endangered species program leader Kristi
Swisher at (406) 329-3558 or by email to [email protected]. In my early
conversations with Kristi she has advocated complete closure of all FS
caves, i.e. - the Colorado model. She has been opposed to recreational
caving even in caves that don't have bats. But in recent conversations she
has come to realize that cavers could be a great help in documenting bat
usage in caves.
http://missoulian.com/news/opinion/editorial/article_344c8606-6cf4-11e0-be9c
-001cc4c03286.html
Please forward this email to any cavers that may want to comment on the
closures.
Michael McEachern - Northern Rocky Mountain Grotto
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