"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the WAR room!"
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Daniel Morgan 
  Cc: Texas Cavers 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Facebook related


  This conversation is starting to remind me of the 90s when I first told my 
parents that I wanted to order a book online and they thought I was crazy. 


  "It's called Amazon dot com. I'll give you cash if can use your credit card 
to order it for me." 
  "You want to put my credit card on THE INTERNET?! What's wrong with book 
stores? Book stores have books." 


  I watch the TexasCaver email list, obviously, but using e-mail as a 
discussion forum for hundreds of people is not terribly elegant. Other than 
mine us for our precious bodily fluids, er... I mean private information, 
free-form discussions amongst groups of people is what sites like Facebook do 
best.


  I'm putting this whole thread in a time capsule for 5 years from now. 


  Daniel Morgan


  On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Louise Power <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    Nor am I. These social websires are entirely too cavalier with one's 
personal information.
     
    > From: [email protected]
    > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
    > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:07:58 -0600
    > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Facebook related

    > 
    > I'm not on facebook, myspace or anything else. If anyone wants to 
communicate with me they can use my e-mail or the old fashioned (and 
indispensable) telephone. If it concerns caving or may be of interest to 
cavers, what's wrong with [email protected] or OT?
    > 
    > Fritz (Geezer and proud Spelunker)
    > 713-818-2496 AT&T cell
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: David [mailto:[email protected]] 
    > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:20 PM
    > To: Cavers Texas
    > Subject: [Texascavers] Facebook related
    > 
    > Facebook has become a more valuable resource to Texas cavers than
    > CaveTex.
    > 
    > Recently cavers have been posting interesting historical photos, and 
socializing
    > in a way that was never done on CaveTex.
    > 
    > Just in the past few days, there have been interesting discussions about
    > Mr. Jasek's caver panorama shots.
    > 
    > Maybe a few of you haven't got on Facebook yet, but nearly ever Texas 
caver has.
    > Many are having productive discussions amongst themselves that were
    > not possible on Cavetex.
    > 
    > Last year, several large caver gatherings benefited from the Events
    > planning feature
    > of Facebook. This feature is ideal for planning caving gatherings.
    > 
    > As mentioned before, several grottos have their own Facebook page, as does
    > several caving organizations in Texas.
    > 
    > Below is an example:
    > 
    > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=28567352179
    > 
    > I am not saying CaveTex is obsolete. It is just a different form or 
resource
    > for communicating.
    > 
    > Potentially there are dozens of Texas cavers on Facebook that are not on
    > CaveTex, and also hundreds of people that could potentially be good cavers
    > or make some form of constructive contribution to the protect caves and
    > bats.
    > 
    > I have made a faithful effort to move all my ranting to Facebook, and
    > many of the other
    > things I used to post about. Most other cavers have too.
    > 
    > It does not look like Facebook is going away anytime soon. All the latest
    > cell-phones have Facebook built into them, as will the upcoming portable
    > tablet gadgets, that cavers will soon be travelling with on their 
road-trips.
    > 
    > The only logical course now is to find ways to use Facebook to make caving
    > in Texas even more fun, or productive. For example, a cave rescue call-out
    > might be more productive on Facebook, or an invitation to the Kiwi Dig 
project.
    > You would just need to create a page for those and invite your Facebook 
friends
    > to join, and eventually you would have a base of support for that
    > particular project.
    > 
    > For example,
    > 
    > http://www.facebook.com/CaveDive
    > 
    > 
    > Anyone wishing to continue this discussion may do so at:
    > 
    > http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_191886334161087
    > 
    > 
    > David Locklear
    > co-host of the East Texas Caver's Cookout
    > 
    > 
http://www.facebook.com/pages/2nd-Annual-East-Texas-Cavers-Cookout/126749377360713
    > 
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