Bill, I received the same error, there is something wrong with the mailing list and website both.
I had emailed Ed yesterday, but this is a new email address that I'm not familiar with. On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:42 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not set up with my AOL address. I'll try my Road Runner address. > > Bill > > In a message dated 2/2/2011 10:38:23 AM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > > pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman post > dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org > generated by [email protected] > local delivery failed > > The following text was generated during the delivery attempt: > > ------ pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman post > dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org > generated by [email protected] ------ > > post script, list not found: dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org > > ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ > > Return-path: <[email protected]> > > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=server446.server-center.net) > by server446.server-center.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) > (envelope-from <[email protected]>) > id 1Pkfig-0004sV-Jf > for [email protected]; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:20 -0500 > Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.169.203] helo= > imr-da06.mx.aol.com) > with IPv4:25 by server446.server-center.net; 2 Feb 2011 11:38:14 -0500 > Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com > (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com[172.29.41.75]) > by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p12GWu66018520 > for <[email protected]>; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:32:56 -0500 > Received: from core-dad004a.r1000.mail.aol.com ( > core-dad004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.14.208]) > by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id > AB496E00008D > for <[email protected]>; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:32:55 -0500 (EST) > From: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:32:55 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Fwd: [Texascavers] Sanctum > To: [email protected] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5132 > X-AOL-IP: 72.190.101.229 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; > boundary="-----------------------------1296664375" > X-Originating-IP: [172.29.46.218] > x-aol-global-disposition: G > X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:463003040:93952408 > X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 > x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b4d4987374e4d > X-Assp-Delay: [email protected] was delayed for 5m 7s; 2 Feb 2011 > 11:38:14 -0500 > X-Assp-Score: -7 (205.188.169 in griplist (0.01)) > X-Assp-Score: 5 (DNSBLcache: neutral, 205.188.169.203 listed in > dnsbl.sorbs.net) > X-Assp-DNSBLcache: neutral, 205.188.169.203 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net > X-Assp-Envelope-From: [email protected] > > X-Assp-Intended-For: [email protected] > X-Assp-ID: server446.server-center.net () > X-Assp-Version: 1.7.1.3(1.0.1) > X-ACL-Warn: { > > -------------------------------1296664375 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="part1_cff20.60e69343.3a7ae137_boundary" > > --part1_cff20.60e69343.3a7ae137_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Language: en > > =20 > =20 > > Hello, fellow DFW Grotto members, > =20 > Would you like to go see the 3D caving thriller Santum together? We could= > =20 > go Sunday afternoon during the Super Bowl (do they have that every year?),= > =20 > > sort of as an Anti-Super Bowl statement. Sanctum starts > Friday night and is playing at the Cinemark Megaplex 17 theatre across the= > =20 > > street from the Taco Cabana > where we go after grotto meetings.=20 > =20 > I will get back to you with a proposed time once I can find the times on=20 > > Sunday. It'll be the earliest showing in the afternoon, during their > matine= > e=20 > > time. I propose that we wear caving gear, like we did when we saw Journey > t= > o=20 > the Center of the Earth in 3D a few years ago.=20 > =20 > Bill Steele=20 > > =20 > In a message dated 2/2/2011 8:40:05 AM Central Standard Time,=20 > [email protected] writes: > > =20 > Several local cavers went to an advanced screening of Sanctum last night.= > =20 > It was much more like a real caving movie than the other caving related=20 > movies in the last 10 years. At least they didn=E2=80=99t have monsters > ch= > asing them=20 > around in the dark. It was of course over sensationalizing everything > they= > =20 > did. Every decision was life or death because everyone knows > =E2=80=9Cthis= > cave can=20 > kill you in a heartbeat=E2=80=9D and it was his/her choice to do whatever > s= > tupid=20 > thing that wound up killing them.=20 > It is not technically accurate in every detail. If it was it would be=20 > > sufficiently boring such that no regular person would watch it. But for > the= > most=20 > part they did use common caving lights, helmets, wetsuits, packs, etc. No= > =20 > ice axes, flare guns, machine guns, etc.=20 > It was entertaining and exciting. The cave passages above and below the=20 > water line were very nice. The 3D effects didn=E2=80=99t add all that > much= > to the=20 > movie, I would have preferred just a good HD version. They didn=E2=80=99t > = > have many 3D=20 > effects just for the oohs and aahs. The 3D did add a sense of really > being= > =20 > there with the actors at times.=20 > I enjoyed it, will probably see it again, and will certainly buy the DVD=20 > when it comes out.=20 > Kurt > > > > --part1_cff20.60e69343.3a7ae137_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Language: en > > <HEAD> > <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8" charset=3DUTF-8 > http-equiv=3DC= > ontent-Type> > <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.18999"></HEAD> > pt"> > <DIV> > <DIV> > <DIV>Hello, fellow DFW Grotto members,</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>Would you like to go see the 3D caving thriller Santum together? We > co= > > uld go Sunday afternoon during the Super Bowl (do they have that every > year= > ?), sort of as an Anti-Super Bowl statement. Sanctum starts</DIV> > <DIV>Friday night and is playing at the Cinemark Megaplex 17 theatre > across= > the street from the Taco Cabana</DIV> > <DIV>where we go after grotto meetings. </DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>I will get back to you with a proposed time once I can find the times > = > on Sunday. It'll be the earliest showing in the afternoon, during their > mat= > inee time. I propose that we wear caving gear, like we did when we saw > Jour= > ney to the Center of the Earth in 3D a few years ago. </DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>Bill Steele </DIV></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>In a message dated 2/2/2011 8:40:05 AM Central Standard Time, gimgr@bc > = > ad.org writes:</DIV> > <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; > MARGIN= > -LEFT: 5px"> > <DIV class=3DWordSection1> > > Several local cavers went to an adv= > anced screening of Sanctum last night.<o:p></o:p> > > > <o:p> </o:p> > > It was much more like a real caving= > movie than the other caving related movies in the last 10 years. At = > least they didn=E2=80=99t have monsters chasing them around in the > dark.&nb= > sp; It was of course over sensationalizing everything they did. > Every= > decision was life or death because everyone knows =E2=80=9Cthis cave can k= > ill you in a heartbeat=E2=80=9D and it was his/her choice to do whatever > st= > upid thing that wound up killing them.<o:p></o:p> > > > <o:p> </o:p> > > It is not technically accurate in e= > very detail. If it was it would be sufficiently boring such that no > r= > > egular person would watch it. But for the most part they did use common > cav= > ing lights, helmets, wetsuits, packs, etc. No ice axes, flare guns, > m= > achine guns, etc.<o:p></o:p> > > > <o:p> </o:p> > > It was entertaining and exciting.&n= > bsp; The cave passages above and below the water line were very > nice. = > The 3D effects didn=E2=80=99t add all that much to the movie, I would have= > preferred just a good HD version. They didn=E2=80=99t have many 3D e= > ffects just for the oohs and aahs. The 3D did add a sense of really > b= > eing there with the actors at times.<o:p></o:p> > > <o:p> </o:p> > > I enjoyed it, will probably see it = > again, and will certainly buy the DVD when it comes out.<o:p></o:p><= > /P> > > <o:p> </o:p> > > Kurt > </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><= > /DIV> > <DIV></DIV> > --part1_cff20.60e69343.3a7ae137_boundary-- > > -------------------------------1296664375 > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > Received: from gnome.wokka.org (gnome.wokka.org [208.77.223.179]) > by mtain-mj11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id > D8CBB38000222 > for <[email protected]>; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:40:04 -0500 (EST) > Received: (qmail 3890 invoked by uid 89); 2 Feb 2011 14:36:54 -0000 > Mailing-List: contact [email protected]; run by ezmlm > Precedence: bulk > List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> > List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]> > List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]> > Delivered-To: mailing list [email protected] > Received: (qmail 3882 invoked by uid 89); 2 Feb 2011 14:36:54 -0000 > X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1296657593-0d61a1110001-1Qc7bB > X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: [email protected] > > From: "Kurt L. 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At least they > didn&#= > 8217;t have monsters chasing them around in the dark. It was of > cours= > e over sensationalizing everything they did. Every > decision was life or death because everyone knows “this cave can kil= > l you in a heartbeat” and it was his/her choice to do whatever > stupid= > thing that wound up killing them.<o:p></o:p> > > > <o:p> </o:p> > > It is not technically accurate in every detail. = > ; If it was it would be sufficiently boring such that no regular person > wou= > ld watch it. But for the most part they did use common caving lights, > helme= > ts, wetsuits, packs, etc. No ice axes, > flare guns, machine guns, etc.<o:p></o:p> > > <o:p> </o:p> > > It was entertaining and exciting. The cave pas= > sages above and below the water line were very nice. The 3D effects > d= > idn’t add all that much to the movie, I would have preferred just a > g= > ood HD version. They didn’t have many 3D effects > just for the oohs and aahs. The 3D did add a sense of really being t= > here with the actors at times.<o:p></o:p> > > <o:p> </o:p> > > I enjoyed it, will probably see it again, and will c= > ertainly buy the DVD when it comes out.<o:p></o:p> > > > <o:p> </o:p> > > Kurt<o:p></o:p> > > </div> > > > > --_000_0A2066A847BAB94B942D1201D01F29E9013E505DBCAD27bcadlocal_-- > > -------------------------------1296664375-- > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mail Delivery System <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:20 -0500 > Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > > pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman post > dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org > generated by [email protected] > local delivery failed > > The following text was generated during the delivery attempt: > > ------ pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman post > dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org > generated by [email protected] ------ > > post script, list not found: dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org > > ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ > > Return-path: <[email protected]> > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=server446.server-center.net) > by server446.server-center.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) > (envelope-from <[email protected]>) > id 1Pkfig-0004sV-Jf > for [email protected]; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:20 -0500 > Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.169.203] helo= > imr-da06.mx.aol.com) > with IPv4:25 by server446.server-center.net; 2 Feb 2011 11:38:14 > -0500 > Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com > (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com[172.29.41.75]) > by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p12GWu66018520 > for <[email protected]>; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:32:56 -0500 > Received: from core-dad004a.r1000.mail.aol.com ( > core-dad004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.14.208]) > by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id > AB496E00008D > for <[email protected]>; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:32:55 -0500 > (EST) > From: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:32:55 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Fwd: [Texascavers] Sanctum > To: [email protected] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5132 > X-AOL-IP: 72.190.101.229 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; > boundary="-----------------------------1296664375" > X-Originating-IP: [172.29.46.218] > x-aol-global-disposition: G > X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:463003040:93952408 > X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 > x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b4d4987374e4d > X-Assp-Delay: [email protected] was delayed for 5m 7s; 2 Feb 2011 > 11:38:14 -0500 > X-Assp-Score: -7 (205.188.169 in griplist (0.01)) > X-Assp-Score: 5 (DNSBLcache: neutral, 205.188.169.203 listed in > dnsbl.sorbs.net) > X-Assp-DNSBLcache: neutral, 205.188.169.203 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net > X-Assp-Envelope-From: [email protected] > X-Assp-Intended-For: [email protected] > X-Assp-ID: server446.server-center.net () > X-Assp-Version: 1.7.1.3(1.0.1) > X-ACL-Warn: { > > -------------------------------1296664375 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="part1_cff20.60e69343.3a7ae137_boundary" > > --part1_cff20.60e69343.3a7ae137_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Language: en > > =20 > =20 > Hello, fellow DFW Grotto members, > =20 > Would you like to go see the 3D caving thriller Santum together? We could= > =20 > go Sunday afternoon during the Super Bowl (do they have that every year?),= > =20 > sort of as an Anti-Super Bowl statement. Sanctum starts > Friday night and is playing at the Cinemark Megaplex 17 theatre across the= > =20 > street from the Taco Cabana > where we go after grotto meetings.=20 > =20 > I will get back to you with a proposed time once I can find the times on=20 > Sunday. It'll be the earliest showing in the afternoon, during their > matine= > e=20 > time. I propose that we wear caving gear, like we did when we saw Journey > t= > o=20 > the Center of the Earth in 3D a few years ago.=20 > =20 > Bill Steele=20 > > =20 > In a message dated 2/2/2011 8:40:05 AM Central Standard Time,=20 > [email protected] writes: > > =20 > Several local cavers went to an advanced screening of Sanctum last night.= > =20 > It was much more like a real caving movie than the other caving related=20 > movies in the last 10 years. At least they didn=E2=80=99t have monsters > ch= > asing them=20 > around in the dark. It was of course over sensationalizing everything > they= > =20 > did. Every decision was life or death because everyone knows > =E2=80=9Cthis= > cave can=20 > kill you in a heartbeat=E2=80=9D and it was his/her choice to do whatever > s= > tupid=20 > thing that wound up killing them.=20 > It is not technically accurate in every detail. If it was it would be=20 > sufficiently boring such that no regular person would watch it. But for > the= > most=20 > part they did use common caving lights, helmets, wetsuits, packs, etc. No= > =20 > ice axes, flare guns, machine guns, etc.=20 > It was entertaining and exciting. The cave passages above and below the=20 > water line were very nice. The 3D effects didn=E2=80=99t add all that > much= > to the=20 > movie, I would have preferred just a good HD version. They didn=E2=80=99t > = > have many 3D=20 > effects just for the oohs and aahs. The 3D did add a sense of really > being= > =20 > there with the actors at times.=20 > I enjoyed it, will probably see it again, and will certainly buy the DVD=20 > when it comes out.=20 > Kurt > > > > --part1_cff20.60e69343.3a7ae137_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Language: en > > <HTML xmlns:o =3D "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><HEAD> > <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8" charset=3DUTF-8 > http-equiv=3DC= > ontent-Type> > <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.18999"></HEAD> > <BODY style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: > 10= > pt"> > <DIV> > <DIV> > <DIV>Hello, fellow DFW Grotto members,</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>Would you like to go see the 3D caving thriller Santum together? We > co= > uld go Sunday afternoon during the Super Bowl (do they have that every > year= > ?), sort of as an Anti-Super Bowl statement. Sanctum starts</DIV> > <DIV>Friday night and is playing at the Cinemark Megaplex 17 theatre > across= > the street from the Taco Cabana</DIV> > <DIV>where we go after grotto meetings. </DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>I will get back to you with a proposed time once I can find the times > = > on Sunday. It'll be the earliest showing in the afternoon, during their > mat= > inee time. I propose that we wear caving gear, like we did when we saw > Jour= > ney to the Center of the Earth in 3D a few years ago. </DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>Bill Steele </DIV></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>In a message dated 2/2/2011 8:40:05 AM Central Standard Time, gimgr@bc > = > ad.org writes:</DIV> > <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; > MARGIN= > -LEFT: 5px"> > <DIV class=3DWordSection1> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial>Several local cavers went to an > adv= > anced screening of Sanctum last night.<o:p></o:p></FONT></P> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></o:p></P> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial>It was much more like a real > caving= > movie than the other caving related movies in the last 10 years. At > = > least they didn=E2=80=99t have monsters chasing them around in the > dark.&nb= > sp; It was of course over sensationalizing everything they did. > Every= > decision was life or death because everyone knows =E2=80=9Cthis cave can > k= > ill you in a heartbeat=E2=80=9D and it was his/her choice to do whatever > st= > upid thing that wound up killing them.<o:p></o:p></FONT></P> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></o:p></P> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial>It is not technically accurate in > e= > very detail. If it was it would be sufficiently boring such that no > r= > egular person would watch it. But for the most part they did use common > cav= > ing lights, helmets, wetsuits, packs, etc. No ice axes, flare guns, > m= > achine guns, etc.<o:p></o:p></FONT></P> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></o:p></P> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial>It was entertaining and > exciting.&n= > bsp; The cave passages above and below the water line were very > nice. = > The 3D effects didn=E2=80=99t add all that much to the movie, I would > have= > preferred just a good HD version. They didn=E2=80=99t have many 3D > e= > ffects just for the oohs and aahs. The 3D did add a sense of really > b= > eing there with the actors at times.<o:p></o:p></FONT></P> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></o:p></P> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial>I enjoyed it, will probably see it > = > again, and will certainly buy the DVD when it comes > out.<o:p></o:p></FONT><= > /P> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></o:p></P> > <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT > face=3DArial>Kurt</FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><= > /DIV> > <DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML> > --part1_cff20.60e69343.3a7ae137_boundary-- > > -------------------------------1296664375 > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > Received: from gnome.wokka.org (gnome.wokka.org [208.77.223.179]) > by mtain-mj11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id > D8CBB38000222 > for <[email protected]>; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:40:04 -0500 (EST) > Received: (qmail 3890 invoked by uid 89); 2 Feb 2011 14:36:54 -0000 > Mailing-List: contact [email protected]; run by ezmlm > Precedence: bulk > List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> > List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]> > List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]> > Delivered-To: mailing list [email protected] > Received: (qmail 3882 invoked by uid 89); 2 Feb 2011 14:36:54 -0000 > X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1296657593-0d61a1110001-1Qc7bB > X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: [email protected] > From: "Kurt L. 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At least they didn't have monsters chasing them > = > around in the dark. It was of course over sensationalizing everything > they= > did. Every decision was life or death because everyone knows "this cave > c= > an kill you in a heartbeat" and it was his/her choice to do whatever > stupid= > thing that wound up killing them. > > It is not technically accurate in every detail. If it was it would be > suff= > iciently boring such that no regular person would watch it. But for the > mos= > t part they did use common caving lights, helmets, wetsuits, packs, etc. > N= > o ice axes, flare guns, machine guns, etc. > > It was entertaining and exciting. The cave passages above and below the > wa= > ter line were very nice. The 3D effects didn't add all that much to the > mo= > vie, I would have preferred just a good HD version. They didn't have many > = > 3D effects just for the oohs and aahs. The 3D did add a sense of really > be= > ing there with the actors at times. > > I enjoyed it, will probably see it again, and will certainly buy the DVD > wh= > en it comes out. > > Kurt > > --_000_0A2066A847BAB94B942D1201D01F29E9013E505DBCAD27bcadlocal_ > Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" > xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= > osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" > = > xmlns:x=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" > xmlns:p=3D"urn:schemas-m= > icrosoft-com:office:powerpoint" > xmlns:a=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office= > :access" xmlns:dt=3D"uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" > xmlns:s=3D"= > uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" > xmlns:rs=3D"urn:schemas-microsof= > t-com:rowset" xmlns:z=3D"#RowsetSchema" > xmlns:b=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-co= > m:office:publisher" > xmlns:ss=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadshee= > t" xmlns:c=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" > xmlns= > :odc=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" > xmlns:oa=3D"urn:schemas-micro= > soft-com:office:activation" xmlns:html=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"; 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At least they > didn&#= > 8217;t have monsters chasing them around in the dark. It was of > cours= > e over sensationalizing everything they did. Every > decision was life or death because everyone knows “this cave can > kil= > l you in a heartbeat” and it was his/her choice to do whatever > stupid= > thing that wound up killing them.<o:p></o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal">It is not technically accurate in every > detail. = > ; If it was it would be sufficiently boring such that no regular person > wou= > ld watch it. But for the most part they did use common caving lights, > helme= > ts, wetsuits, packs, etc. No ice axes, > flare guns, machine guns, etc.<o:p></o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal">It was entertaining and exciting. The cave > pas= > sages above and below the water line were very nice. The 3D effects > d= > idn’t add all that much to the movie, I would have preferred just a > g= > ood HD version. They didn’t have many 3D effects > just for the oohs and aahs. The 3D did add a sense of really being > t= > here with the actors at times.<o:p></o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I enjoyed it, will probably see it again, and will > c= > ertainly buy the DVD when it comes out.<o:p></o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Kurt<o:p></o:p></p> > </div> > </body> > </html> > > --_000_0A2066A847BAB94B942D1201D01F29E9013E505DBCAD27bcadlocal_-- > > -------------------------------1296664375-- > >
