I am posting this so that I don't step on anybody's turf.

I hope to soon post an update about the status of Brehmer
Cave.

At the moment, I only know that Melitta Stahl's granddaughter
owns the 2 caves.    I was told by the former manager of the ranch
today ( who I found on Facebook ), that the cave is closed
due to all the houses nearby.

I think I know which granddaughter inherited the cave, but I sent
them both Facebook messages in hopes of a reply.

Melitta Stahl passed away in April of 2008, and I think that was
mentioned then.   But her daughter became the contact person,
in the late 80's.   ( I haven't found her yet )

For those of you who have not been to these 2 caves.    The smaller
of the 2, is a crawl in entrance full of harvestman, over lots of debris
( dirt, rocks, sticks, guano, etc. )   Immediately you are in a small
room with enough room to take a group photo around some nice formations.
Then there is a short crawl to a smaller room that often had ringtail cats.

The larger cave has a nice entrance that you can stoop walk through to a
good size room with a man-made skylight ( or possibly an enlarged sinkhole
entrance ).     This was a guano mine, and I was told it had
historical importance.
The skylight is fenced off and lots of brush going around it.

The back of the big room is, or was full of bats.     Beyond the big
room, is a small
passage leading to a small room with some old grafitti.
There is a tiny lead in the cave, but you would have to be small and skinny to
push it.    It is in the entrance going the opposite direction from
the rest of the
cave.

I have never seen a map of Little Brehmer Cave, but the old map of Brehmer Cave
looked accurate enough to describe the passage that I went into a few times.
I seem to recall an old-timer telling me there was passage that was not on that
map.

After doing all that and righting the above I found the following link
showing a
caving trip just 4 years ago.  ( I don't remember the cave being that pretty ).

http://www.oztotl.com/Pages/2006/Brehmers.html

And it is listed as the 124th longest cave.

Hopefully, to be continued.

David Locklear


Ref:   http://www.caves.org/section/asha/saltpeter-survey.pdf

         http://www.utexas.edu/tmm/sponsored_sites/tss/longdeep/tsslongcaves.htm

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