The TSA has my e mail.....and I get....oh maybe one or two junk mail messages 
per WEEK. 
Paranoia runs deep concerning e mail spam. But unjustly condemning the TSA for 
something they are not doing or really at fault for......hardly seems fair or 
reasonable. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 14, 2009, at 6:37 AM, "Bill Bentley" <[email protected]> wrote:

Rod,
 My [email protected] email address gets a spam email message every 2 to 3 
seconds... literally thousands per hour... all of it goes into a spam folder 
and good spam sorting software on the email server  helps me figure what is 
crap and what is not... End of the day I am deleting a lot of spam... If 
someone were to go after the companies who are advertisng the drugs, diplomas 
and sex services then it mifght help curb it. I feel that a complete overhaul 
of how email works wouold be the answer, since you can currently send from and 
have the reply to address be different. A lot of the spam I gets looks as if it 
is coming to me from me... but buried in the header I find that it comes from 
Korea or China...

Bill
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Goke" <[email protected]>
To: "TexasCavers" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Rod Goke" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:04 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?


All this talk about electronic vs. paper publication of the Texas Caver reminds 
me of a related issue:

   Is it safe to give your email address to TSA?

For years TSA has been asking for our email addresses on the membership renewal 
forms, and I have been refusing to give them mine. During this same period, 
however, I have been providing my email address (along with mailing address and 
phone numbers) to the UT Grotto for publication in their "UT Grotto Phone 
List". Why is it that I have felt that my email address was sufficiently safe 
with the UT Grotto but not with TSA? The answer is that the "UT Grotto Phone 
List" is published only in paper form, where email addresses and other personal 
information is not likely to be harvested by spammers, telemarketers, search 
engines, etc.

I don't have that kind of confidence in TSA, however, because for years, I've 
heard various people within TSA advocating expanded use of digital publication 
without adequately considering the negative consequences of what they are 
advocating. Most disturbing has been the proposal I've heard from time to time 
that TSA publish its membership list information electronically, perhaps by 
placing it on a web site. This might be cheap and convenient for TSA to 
implement and for TSA members to use, but it also could make our personal 
information much more vulnerable to automated harvesting by those who would use 
it in ways we never intended. Once our email addresses, cell phone numbers, 
etc. have been harvested from a digitally published list, there would be no 
cheap and convenient way to undo the damage. How can we be confident that the 
continuing push towards digital publication within TSA will not lead to ill 
considered digital publication of email addresses
 and other information vulnerable to automated harvesting?

Rod


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