For the record Mark, I wasn't blaming nor condeming the TSA, I was just
stating the fact that I get hundreds of thousands of spam emails.
Mark, I like the TSA and I think I get my moneys worth from volunteers who
are very much appreciated.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Brooks" <[email protected]>
To: "Bill Bentley" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Rod Goke" <[email protected]>; "TexasCavers"
<[email protected]>; "Rod Goke" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?
The TSA has my e mail.....and I get....oh maybe one or two junk mail
messages per WEEK.
Paranoia runs deep concerning e mail spam. But unjustly condemning the TSA
for something they are not doing or really at fault for......hardly seems
fair or reasonable.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 14, 2009, at 6:37 AM, "Bill Bentley" <[email protected]> wrote:
Rod,
My [email protected] email address gets a spam email message every 2 to 3
seconds... literally thousands per hour... all of it goes into a spam
folder and good spam sorting software on the email server helps me figure
what is crap and what is not... End of the day I am deleting a lot of
spam... If someone were to go after the companies who are advertisng the
drugs, diplomas and sex services then it mifght help curb it. I feel that
a complete overhaul of how email works wouold be the answer, since you can
currently send from and have the reply to address be different. A lot of
the spam I gets looks as if it is coming to me from me... but buried in
the header I find that it comes from Korea or China...
Bill
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Goke" <[email protected]>
To: "TexasCavers" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Rod Goke" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:04 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?
All this talk about electronic vs. paper publication of the Texas Caver
reminds me of a related issue:
Is it safe to give your email address to TSA?
For years TSA has been asking for our email addresses on the membership
renewal forms, and I have been refusing to give them mine. During this
same period, however, I have been providing my email address (along with
mailing address and phone numbers) to the UT Grotto for publication in
their "UT Grotto Phone List". Why is it that I have felt that my email
address was sufficiently safe with the UT Grotto but not with TSA? The
answer is that the "UT Grotto Phone List" is published only in paper form,
where email addresses and other personal information is not likely to be
harvested by spammers, telemarketers, search engines, etc.
I don't have that kind of confidence in TSA, however, because for years,
I've heard various people within TSA advocating expanded use of digital
publication without adequately considering the negative consequences of
what they are advocating. Most disturbing has been the proposal I've heard
from time to time that TSA publish its membership list information
electronically, perhaps by placing it on a web site. This might be cheap
and convenient for TSA to implement and for TSA members to use, but it
also could make our personal information much more vulnerable to automated
harvesting by those who would use it in ways we never intended. Once our
email addresses, cell phone numbers, etc. have been harvested from a
digitally published list, there would be no cheap and convenient way to
undo the damage. How can we be confident that the continuing push towards
digital publication within TSA will not lead to ill considered digital
publication of email addresses
and other information vulnerable to automated harvesting?
Rod
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