texascavers Digest 26 Aug 2009 04:32:15 -0000 Issue 834

Topics (messages 11849 through 11854):

Re: Priest's Cave Presentation in Houston
        11849 by: caverarch.aol.com

Re: 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
        11850 by: Andy Zenker
        11851 by: Linda Palit
        11852 by: John P. Brooks
        11853 by: Charles Goldsmith
        11854 by: Stefan Creaser

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Sent: Tue, Aug 25, 2009 7:01 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Priest's Cave Presentation in Houston




Event in Houston in October:

?

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=122780018060&ref=nf

?

This event's description: A Kristallnacht Memorial which will include a slide 
show presentation by American caver Chris Nicola about the "Priest's Grotto 
Story", an amazing story of how 38 Jews survived the Holocaust by taking refuge 
in a cave system in Ukrain...e for over 500 days. Following the show Chris will 
be available to sign copies of his book, "The Secret of Priest's Grotto".

?

Roger




 

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Sungglin' with your main squeeze ain't so fun when you got the stank on...  but 
do-able I suppose

Andy Zenker
Texas Caver




--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
To: "TexasCavers" <[email protected]>
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 5:38 PM




 
 






Surely we’re cavers and can wait ‘til we get home to clean off?
Would save a bunch of hassle/TCR expense… 

   

Stefan 

   





From: Rod Goke
[mailto:[email protected]] 

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:36 PM

To: TexasCavers

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion 





   

If I remember correctly, there was running water available in the
restrooms, and there was a hose from that building to the cooking area,
supplying water for dishwashing, hosing off, etc. If that's still available, I
don't see any need for a water truck. Is there any reason to think that that
water supply will not be available at TCR this year? 



   





Rod 







 

-----Original Message----- 

From: [email protected] 

Sent: Aug 24, 2009 12:26 PM 

To: [email protected], [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion 



Regarding washing, etc., water at TCR: how much would it cost to have a
non-potable water truck or trailer placed at the site for hosing off, filling
the hot tub, etc. if there is no flowing water at the time of the event?
 Is that feasible?  



   





Roger Moore





-----Original Message-----

From: Fofo <[email protected]>

To: texascavers <[email protected]>

Sent: Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:19 am

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion 



G'morning! 

 

Speaking of Tlaloc... Here's a short story that I like very much, from Paco
Ignacio Taibo II, called "Tlaloc": 

 

http://tinyurl.com/l3tybz 

 

It's in Spanish. I couldn't find a translated version, but here's a Google
translation: 

 

http:/tinyurl.com/lv3xbh 

 

Some things sound funny, but I guess that you can follow most of the story in
English (it translated the name of a town, Los Tecomates, as "the
gourds," and it definitely can't handle swear words and slang, but it's
amusing to read "neither mothers" for "ni madres"). 

 

  - Fofo 

 

Allan Cobb wrote, on 24/8/09 8:12: 

> Oztotl says there will be at least some water. Oztotl has spoken with >
Tlaloc and they are trying to work out a deal. 

> > ----- Original Message ----- 

> *From:* wesley s <mailto:[email protected]> 

> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; 

> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 

> *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 10:06 AM 

> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion 

> > Yes but will there be water to swim in? If levels get too low all
of 

> the flow out of that reservoir will go down that diversion channel 

> and not over the dam. Is there a river authority for the Medina? 

> Will they let it run dry or do they have to keep the river bed wet 

> for the fish and wildlife? 

> > Wes~ 

>  

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Whoa….

After cave-camping without water except for food for a week life is still good, 
and squizzin’ still worth it.  

 

But there is not going to be that little water.  Besides – options are limited 
unless you want to go to Dallas for TCR. 

 

So OKAY – all is good and get it on!

 

 

From: Andy Zenker [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion

 


Sungglin' with your main squeeze ain't so fun when you got the stank on...  but 
do-able I suppose

  <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/09.gif> Andy Zenker
Texas Caver





--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
To: "TexasCavers" <[email protected]>
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 5:38 PM

Surely we’re cavers and can wait ‘til we get home to clean off? Would save a 
bunch of hassle/TCR expense…

 

Stefan

 

From: Rod Goke [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:36 PM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion

 

If I remember correctly, there was running water available in the restrooms, 
and there was a hose from that building to the cooking area, supplying water 
for dishwashing, hosing off, etc. If that's still available, I don't see any 
need for a water truck. Is there any reason to think that that water supply 
will not be available at TCR this year?

 

Rod

 

-----Original Message----- 
From: [email protected] 
Sent: Aug 24, 2009 12:26 PM 
To: [email protected], [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion 

Regarding washing, etc., water at TCR: how much would it cost to have a 
non-potable water truck or trailer placed at the site for hosing off, filling 
the hot tub, etc. if there is no flowing water at the time of the event?  Is 
that feasible? 

 

Roger Moore


-----Original Message-----
From: Fofo <[email protected]>
To: texascavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:19 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion

G'morning! 
 
Speaking of Tlaloc... Here's a short story that I like very much, from Paco 
Ignacio Taibo II, called "Tlaloc": 
 
http://tinyurl.com/l3tybz 
 
It's in Spanish. I couldn't find a translated version, but here's a Google 
translation: 
 
http:/tinyurl.com/lv3xbh 
 
Some things sound funny, but I guess that you can follow most of the story in 
English (it translated the name of a town, Los Tecomates, as "the gourds," and 
it definitely can't handle swear words and slang, but it's amusing to read 
"neither mothers" for "ni madres"). 
 
  - Fofo 
 
Allan Cobb wrote, on 24/8/09 8:12: 
> Oztotl says there will be at least some water. Oztotl has spoken with > 
> Tlaloc and they are trying to work out a deal. 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> *From:* wesley s <mailto:[email protected]> 
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; 
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 10:06 AM 
> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion 
> > Yes but will there be water to swim in? If levels get too low all of 
> the flow out of that reservoir will go down that diversion channel 
> and not over the dam. Is there a river authority for the Medina? 
> Will they let it run dry or do they have to keep the river bed wet 
> for the fish and wildlife? 
> > Wes~ 
>  
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Did someone mention Dallas?


On 8/25/09 7:49 PM, "Linda Palit" <[email protected]> wrote:

> WhoaŠ.
> After cave-camping without water except for food for a week life is still
> good, and squizzin¹ still worth it. 
>  
> But there is not going to be that little water.  Besides ­ options are limited
> unless you want to go to Dallas for TCR.
>  
> So OKAY ­ all is good and get it on!
>  
>  
> 
> From: Andy Zenker [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM
> To: TexasCavers
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>  
>  
>   Sungglin' with your main  squeeze ain't so fun when you got the stank on...
> but do-able I suppose
>  
>  Andy Zenker
>  Texas Caver
>  
>   
>  
>  --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>  wrote:
>  From: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
>  Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>  To: "TexasCavers" <[email protected]>
>  Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 5:38 PM    Surely  we¹re cavers and can wait
> Œtil we get home to clean off? Would save a bunch  of hassle/TCR expenseŠ
> Stefan      From: Rod Goke  [mailto:[email protected]]
>  Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:36 PM
>  To: TexasCavers
>  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>  
>    If I  remember correctly, there was running water available in the
> restrooms, and  there was a hose from that building to the cooking area,
> supplying water for  dishwashing, hosing off, etc. If that's still available,
> I don't see any need  for a water truck. Is there any reason to think that
> that water supply will  not be available at TCR this year?
>   Rod  
>    -----Original  Message-----
>  From: [email protected]
>  Sent: Aug 24, 2009 12:26 PM
>  To: [email protected], [email protected]
>  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>  
>  Regarding washing, etc., water at TCR: how much would it cost to have a
> non-potable water truck or trailer placed at the site for hosing off, filling
> the hot tub, etc. if there is no flowing water at the time of the event?   Is
> that feasible?   
>   Roger  Moore
>  
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Fofo <[email protected]>
>  To: texascavers <[email protected]>
>  Sent: Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:19 am
>  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion   G'morning!
>   
>  Speaking of Tlaloc... Here's a short story that I like very much, from Paco
> Ignacio Taibo II, called "Tlaloc":
>   
>  http://tinyurl.com/l3tybz
>   
>  It's in Spanish. I couldn't find a translated version, but here's a Google
> translation: 
>   
>  http:/tinyurl.com/lv3xbh
>   
>  Some things sound funny, but I guess that you can follow most of the story in
> English (it translated the name of a town, Los Tecomates, as "the  gourds,"
> and it definitely can't handle swear words and slang, but it's  amusing to
> read "neither mothers" for "ni madres").
>   
>    - Fofo 
>   
>  Allan Cobb wrote, on 24/8/09 8:12:
>>  > Oztotl says there will be at least some water. Oztotl has spoken with  >
>> Tlaloc and they are trying to work out a deal.
>>>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>>  > *From:* wesley s <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ;
>>  > [email protected]  <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  > *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 10:06 AM
>>  > *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>>>  > > Yes but will there be water to swim in? If levels get too low all  of
>>  > the flow out of that reservoir will go down that diversion channel
>>  > and not over the dam. Is there a river authority for the Medina?
>>  > Will they let it run dry or do they have to keep the river bed wet
>>  > for the fish and wildlife?
>>>  > > Wes~ 
>>  >  
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John, careful, you'll get hooked into organizing next years TCR in the
DFW area :p

Charles

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:48 PM, John P.
Brooks<[email protected]> wrote:
> Did someone mention Dallas?
>
>
> On 8/25/09 7:49 PM, "Linda Palit" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Whoa….
> After cave-camping without water except for food for a week life is still
> good, and squizzin’ still worth it.
>
> But there is not going to be that little water.  Besides – options are
> limited unless you want to go to Dallas for TCR.
>
> So OKAY – all is good and get it on!
>
>
>
> From: Andy Zenker [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM
> To: TexasCavers
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>
>
>   Sungglin' with your main  squeeze ain't so fun when you got the stank
> on...  but do-able I suppose
>
>  Andy Zenker
>  Texas Caver
>
>
>
>  --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>  wrote:
>  From: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
>  Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>  To: "TexasCavers" <[email protected]>
>  Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 5:38 PM    Surely  we’re cavers and can
> wait ‘til we get home to clean off? Would save a bunch  of hassle/TCR
> expense…   Stefan     From: Rod Goke  [mailto:[email protected]]
>  Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:36 PM
>  To: TexasCavers
>  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>
>    If I  remember correctly, there was running water available in the
> restrooms, and  there was a hose from that building to the cooking area,
> supplying water for  dishwashing, hosing off, etc. If that's still
> available, I don't see any need  for a water truck. Is there any reason to
> think that that water supply will  not be available at TCR this year?
>   Rod
>    -----Original  Message-----
>  From: [email protected]
>  Sent: Aug 24, 2009 12:26 PM
>  To: [email protected], [email protected]
>  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>
>  Regarding washing, etc., water at TCR: how much would it cost to have a
>  non-potable water truck or trailer placed at the site for hosing off,
> filling  the hot tub, etc. if there is no flowing water at the time of the
> event?   Is that feasible?
>   Roger  Moore
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Fofo <[email protected]>
>  To: texascavers <[email protected]>
>  Sent: Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:19 am
>  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion   G'morning!
>
>  Speaking of Tlaloc... Here's a short story that I like very much, from Paco
>  Ignacio Taibo II, called "Tlaloc":
>
>  http://tinyurl.com/l3tybz
>
>  It's in Spanish. I couldn't find a translated version, but here's a Google
>  translation:
>
>  http:/tinyurl.com/lv3xbh
>
>  Some things sound funny, but I guess that you can follow most of the story
> in  English (it translated the name of a town, Los Tecomates, as "the
>  gourds," and it definitely can't handle swear words and slang, but it's
>  amusing to read "neither mothers" for "ni madres").
>
>    - Fofo
>
>  Allan Cobb wrote, on 24/8/09 8:12:
>  > Oztotl says there will be at least some water. Oztotl has spoken with  >
> Tlaloc and they are trying to work out a deal.
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > *From:* wesley s <mailto:[email protected]>
>  > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ;
>  > [email protected]  <mailto:[email protected]>
>  > *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 10:06 AM
>  > *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>  > > Yes but will there be water to swim in? If levels get too low all  of
>  > the flow out of that reservoir will go down that diversion channel
>  > and not over the dam. Is there a river authority for the Medina?
>  > Will they let it run dry or do they have to keep the river bed wet
>  > for the fish and wildlife?
>  > > Wes~
>  >
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Wouldn't happen, who'd want to go to Dallas? ;-)

Stefan

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:30 PM
To: John P. Brooks
Cc: Linda Palit; Andy Zenker; TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion

John, careful, you'll get hooked into organizing next years TCR in the
DFW area :p

Charles

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:48 PM, John P.
Brooks<[email protected]> wrote:
> Did someone mention Dallas?
>
>
> On 8/25/09 7:49 PM, "Linda Palit" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Whoa....
> After cave-camping without water except for food for a week life is still
> good, and squizzin' still worth it.
>
> But there is not going to be that little water.  Besides - options are
> limited unless you want to go to Dallas for TCR.
>
> So OKAY - all is good and get it on!
>
>
>
> From: Andy Zenker [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM
> To: TexasCavers
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>
>
>   Sungglin' with your main  squeeze ain't so fun when you got the stank
> on...  but do-able I suppose
>
>  Andy Zenker
>  Texas Caver
>
>
>
>  --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>  wrote:
>  From: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
>  Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>  To: "TexasCavers" <[email protected]>
>  Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 5:38 PM    Surely  we're cavers and can
> wait 'til we get home to clean off? Would save a bunch  of hassle/TCR
> expense...   Stefan     From: Rod Goke  [mailto:[email protected]]
>  Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:36 PM
>  To: TexasCavers
>  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>
>    If I  remember correctly, there was running water available in the
> restrooms, and  there was a hose from that building to the cooking area,
> supplying water for  dishwashing, hosing off, etc. If that's still
> available, I don't see any need  for a water truck. Is there any reason to
> think that that water supply will  not be available at TCR this year?
>   Rod
>    -----Original  Message-----
>  From: [email protected]
>  Sent: Aug 24, 2009 12:26 PM
>  To: [email protected], [email protected]
>  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>
>  Regarding washing, etc., water at TCR: how much would it cost to have a
>  non-potable water truck or trailer placed at the site for hosing off,
> filling  the hot tub, etc. if there is no flowing water at the time of the
> event?   Is that feasible?
>   Roger  Moore
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Fofo <[email protected]>
>  To: texascavers <[email protected]>
>  Sent: Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:19 am
>  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion   G'morning!
>
>  Speaking of Tlaloc... Here's a short story that I like very much, from Paco
>  Ignacio Taibo II, called "Tlaloc":
>
>  http://tinyurl.com/l3tybz
>
>  It's in Spanish. I couldn't find a translated version, but here's a Google
>  translation:
>
>  http:/tinyurl.com/lv3xbh
>
>  Some things sound funny, but I guess that you can follow most of the story
> in  English (it translated the name of a town, Los Tecomates, as "the
>  gourds," and it definitely can't handle swear words and slang, but it's
>  amusing to read "neither mothers" for "ni madres").
>
>    - Fofo
>
>  Allan Cobb wrote, on 24/8/09 8:12:
>  > Oztotl says there will be at least some water. Oztotl has spoken with  >
> Tlaloc and they are trying to work out a deal.
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > *From:* wesley s <mailto:[email protected]>
>  > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ;
>  > [email protected]  <mailto:[email protected]>
>  > *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 10:06 AM
>  > *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion
>  > > Yes but will there be water to swim in? If levels get too low all  of
>  > the flow out of that reservoir will go down that diversion channel
>  > and not over the dam. Is there a river authority for the Medina?
>  > Will they let it run dry or do they have to keep the river bed wet
>  > for the fish and wildlife?
>  > > Wes~
>  >
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