Well, don't campfires come with stakes? Or was that steaks? It's friday and my catholic background is very confused . . .
-k

At 7:55 PM -0500 8/28/09, Brian Riordan wrote:
"...and I feel blessed-albeit in a very non-religious,
non-denominational way..."

Yah, but be careful how you word things or say things around the
campfire.  If someone thinks you believe in God, or have a faith
different from theirs you'll get roasted!  It's a melting pot that
just might include you IN it.

Spiritually, amicably and half-jokingly,

-B

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM, JS White<[email protected]> wrote:
 I've read this thread with interest, consternation, and amusement all
 bundled up together.  Back when this mailing list was "CaveTex," I spent a
 year (and then some) as its administrator and moderator. I inherited the job
 from my dad, who just got plain tired of trying to keep up with Luddites and
 flamers and headaches from the list's various hosting services.

 Here's what I think, for what it's worth. The "me-toos" and one-liners are
 indeed a nice campfire, sociable kind of response. You guys exist in a rare
 community. I've seen the old-timers take care of each other in ways that
 just don't happen in conventional communities and families, and I feel
 blessed-albeit in a very non-religious, non-denominational way. You rely on
 each other for amusement, and you work together and learn together. I work
 closely with another Caver-offspring in a 40-hour/week bureaucratic
 environment. We marvel regularly at what a great thing it was to be raised
 by our crazy parents and their friends. In most cases, you know you can
 count on each other to care about important things in the same ways-family,
 friends, the land, the caves, the knowledgeŠyour own lives.

 Use the Delete key as you see fit and keep your impatience to yourselves. If
 you really want to be business-minded, be cautious with your subject-lines.
 Use important first words:  Trip Report, Work Weekend, Action Required,
 whatever. But don't disparage each other for brevity or lack of brilliance.
 Gil Edigar can write an essay that would make any of us weep. Ted Samsel can
 make me laugh so hard I fear I will pee myself from a single line. But every
 non-stellar rejoinder or mundane reply meant something to the person on the
 other end who hit "send." Respect that and appreciate it.

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
 wrote:

 Have you considered printing double sided?



 I've left the history so you can check if this worksŠ



 Cheers,

 Stefan



 From: Simon Newton [mailto:[email protected]]
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:29 AM
 To: [email protected]

 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] delete button



 I have my secretary print all my emails to paper, so I'd prefer 1 page
 text minimum (Times New Roman, 10 pt font).

 Also, if you could remove the history chain at the bottom this would save
 a lot of paper.

 Thanks in advance for your compliance on this matter,

 Simon

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 From: Fofo <[email protected]>
 To: texascavers <[email protected]>
 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:31:40 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] delete button
 Hi!

 I use Mozilla's Thunderbird both in the office and my laptop. I know, it's
 a throwback, now that everything is online, but you can set it up to pretty
 much do whatever you want: leave messages on server, delete messages from
 server, delete only the ones that you delete, have messages delivered
directly to specific folders, group messages by thread, etc. It has a pretty
 decent junk mail filter, and setting it up is easy.

 Even in slow connections, usually I don't even notice when messages are
 downloaded (unless it's the first time of the day and there are several big
>> files to download, and for really bad connections you can put a limit on the
 size of files to download). I always have the preview panel on, and it
 literally often takes less than one second to read a message (especially
 short replies), delete them and move on to the next one.

 OK, 162 words. Clear to go!


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