Has anyone ever considered moving the list serve to a Texas Cavers Online Forum?
Online forums allow threads to be created for independent topics, where the cumulative responses can be easily read in sequence, in single or multiple pages if lengthy. Users, members, or recipients can select the thread or topic they wish to read, & easily read all responses w/ out any need to delete anything. Furthermore, many options are available for users to receive e-mail alerts to any or all posts and threads that they choose. Here is an example of an online forum I use to keep up w/ Texas diving activities (although this is a sub forum of a national board w/ advertising, simple forums exist as well). http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/texas-swamp-divers/ Seems like a very efficient system that would work equally well for Texas cavers. Just my two cents... Brandon --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Ryan Monjaras <[email protected]> wrote: From: Ryan Monjaras <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Rethinking the delete button To: "texas cavers" <[email protected]> List-Post: [email protected] Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 8:29 PM #yiv1464283235 #yiv870165130 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1464283235 #yiv870165130 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} hear, hear!!! List-Post: [email protected] Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:45:19 -0500 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rethinking the delete button #yiv1464283235 #yiv870165130 .ExternalClass p.EC_MsoNormal, #yiv1464283235 #yiv870165130 .ExternalClass li.EC_MsoNormal, #yiv1464283235 #yiv870165130 .ExternalClass div.EC_MsoNormal {margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';} #yiv1464283235 filtered #yiv870165130 {} #yiv1464283235 #yiv870165130 .ExternalClass div.EC_Section1 {} I’ve read this thread with interest, consternation, and amusement all bundled up together. Back when this mailing list was “CaveTex,” I spent a year (and then some) as its administrator and moderator. I inherited the job from my dad, who just got plain tired of trying to keep up with Luddites and flamers and headaches from the list’s various hosting services. Here’s what I think, for what it’s worth. The “me-toos” and one-liners are indeed a nice campfire, sociable kind of response. You guys exist in a rare community. I’ve seen the old-timers take care of each other in ways that just don’t happen in conventional communities and families, and I feel blessed—albeit in a very non-religious, non-denominational way. You rely on each other for amusement, and you work together and learn together. I work closely with another Caver-offspring in a 40-hour/week bureaucratic environment. We marvel regularly at what a great thing it was to be raised by our crazy parents and their friends. In most cases, you know you can count on each other to care about important things in the same ways—family, friends, the land, the caves, the knowledge…your own lives. Use the Delete key as you see fit and keep your impatience to yourselves. If you really want to be business-minded, be cautious with your subject-lines. Use important first words: Trip Report, Work Weekend, Action Required, whatever. But don’t disparage each other for brevity or lack of brilliance. Gil Edigar can write an essay that would make any of us weep. Ted Samsel can make me laugh so hard I fear I will pee myself from a single line. But every non-stellar rejoinder or mundane reply meant something to the person on the other end who hit “send.” Respect that and appreciate it. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]> wrote: Have you considered printing double sided? I’ve left the history so you can check if this works… Cheers, Stefan From: Simon Newton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Texascavers] delete button I have my secretary print all my emails to paper, so I'd prefer 1 page text minimum (Times New Roman, 10 pt font). Also, if you could remove the history chain at the bottom this would save a lot of paper. Thanks in advance for your compliance on this matter, Simon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Fofo <[email protected]> To: texascavers <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:31:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] delete button Hi! I use Mozilla's Thunderbird both in the office and my laptop. I know, it's a throwback, now that everything is online, but you can set it up to pretty much do whatever you want: leave messages on server, delete messages from server, delete only the ones that you delete, have messages delivered directly to specific folders, group messages by thread, etc. It has a pretty decent junk mail filter, and setting it up is easy. Even in slow connections, usually I don't even notice when messages are downloaded (unless it's the first time of the day and there are several big files to download, and for really bad connections you can put a limit on the size of files to download). I always have the preview panel on, and it literally often takes less than one second to read a message (especially short replies), delete them and move on to the next one. OK, 162 words. Clear to go! -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now.
