I get fingerprinted every time I go across the border and need to go beyond 20 miles inland into the states. No big deal Nico
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Cynthia Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > I was finger printed in 1975 when I went to work for UPS as a temp. > > Cindy > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Linda Palit <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Traditionally being fingerprinted was associated with being a criminal. >> >> >> This view is sure to change as it becomes so common. >> >> >> >> Probably this is becoming way off topic, and I am not meeting the word >> limits, so enough of this for me. >> >> >> >> *From:* Louise Power [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:23 PM >> *To:* [email protected]; Texas Cavers >> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related >> >> >> >> I'm a federal employee. My prints have been on file for years. I do not >> find it humiliating or feel that my privacy has been invaded. Why were you >> so humiliated? Our country has suffered some terrible blows in recent years >> from people disguised as friends. I'm not sure where you're from, but how >> does your country verify the identification of foreign nationals? >> >> Louise >> >> > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 06:49:50 -0700 >> > From: [email protected] >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related >> > >> > Hm, >> > >> > Can we (the foreigners who for whatever reason come to visit USA) >> encrypt our fingerprints? I have never been to any as humiliating process as >> this one: being taken my fingerprints at the US border. >> > >> > I guess it is really not the best way to make friends. I know many of my >> friends in Europe who would not come to USA precisely for this reason. >> > >> > For whatever reasons, very recently, Texas Teachers were ordered to give >> their fingerprints as well. I expected riots and protests - but they went >> silently to gave up all their privacy as easily as that! What a KGB country >> of obedient society who shouts loudly on privacy but really forgot what >> "privacy" really means! >> > >> > Really, if I had a kid, I would not like it to be educated by these >> teachers. >> > >> > Katy >> > >> > >> > >> > --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Don Cooper <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > From: Don Cooper <[email protected]> >> > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related >> > > To: "Mixon Bill" <[email protected]> >> > > Cc: "Cavers Texas" <[email protected]> >> > > Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 5:10 AM >> > > I figure if you re-constitute zeros and ones >> > > on my computer with enough permutations, you can make up >> > > just about anything including 9/11 plans and blueprints for >> > > thermonuke devices. >> > > >> > > I am all FOR encryption. If its MY bizness, then it >> > > should STAY my business. As far as probing things I've >> > > thought about and not done - well that is MINE ALONE. Stay >> > > out of my HEAD - FEDS! >> > > >> > > >> > > And as far as tracking my relative position between cell >> > > phone towers - How else can I receive a phone call when >> > > I'm out and about? But yeah - thanks for reminding me, >> > > Bill - I should always remember to always turn it off when >> > > I'm out there committing crimes! >> > > >> > > >> > > -WaV >> > > >> > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:47 PM, >> > > Mixon Bill <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > Surely the authority of the customs people to inspect >> > > vessels or vehicles applies only to those that have been >> > > outside the United States? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Anyway, there was an amusing thing in the news a few months >> > > ago. Some guy came into the US from Canada and somehow the >> > > customs people learned that there was kiddy porn on his >> > > laptop computer and arrested him. However, the files were >> > > encrypted, and even the feds were unable to break the >> > > encryption and prove it. Courts ruled that the defendent >> > > could not be required to give up the key to the code. (I >> > > suspect this might have been a deliberate test case, with >> > > the offending image deliberately out where the customs >> > > inspector would see it.) >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Drive them crazy. Get PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) and encrypt >> > > lots of perfectly innocent stuff on your computer. Don't >> > > use some wimpy encryption facility that comes with your >> > > operating system; it is probably not NSA-proof. (Actually, >> > > of course, unless you deliberately do something to make them >> > > suspicious--not recommended--, it is extremely unlikely that >> > > they'll ever check.) It would be really nice if it was >> > > easy and convenient to encrypt everything, including all >> > > voice communications. But almost nobody really cares about >> > > his privacy. Witness all those people who travel around with >> > > their cell phones turned on, making it possible to track >> > > them in real time. >> > > >> > > >> > > --Mixon >> > > >> > > ---------------------------------------- >> > > >> > > A fearless man cannot be brave. >> > > >> > > ---------------------------------------- >> > > >> > > You may "reply" to the address this message >> > > >> > > came from, but for long-term use, save: >> > > >> > > Personal: [email protected] >> > > >> > > AMCS: [email protected] >> > > or [email protected] >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >> > > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com >> > > >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> > > >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> > >> > >
