texascavers Digest 3 Sep 2009 14:50:01 -0000 Issue 847
Topics (messages 12008 through 12020):
TCR Volunteers
12008 by: Sheryl Rieck
12009 by: Allan Cobb
12010 by: Stefan Creaser
Re: Totally non caving related
12011 by: Louise Power
12017 by: Geary Schindel
caver vs. spelunker in the news again
12012 by: David
commercial cave gimmicks
12013 by: David
12014 by: Jim Kennedy
Contact information for Mike Boon
12015 by: speleosteele.tx.rr.com
Re: The LED's Dark Secret
12016 by: Gill Edigar
The Huge Mega ICS Issue of the TEXAS CAVER is now online!
12018 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com
12020 by: germanyj.aol.com
Be a Kong! Climb 1000 ft! at the TAG Fall Cave-In
12019 by: Tim White
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Allan,
I have not seen a listing of volunteers that you need for TCR. I assume you
need volunteers? I would actually volunteer if I knew what to sign up for.
I can't volunteer for an unknown task for fear of latrine duty or something
equally disgusting.
Sheryl, Ready for TCR!
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Sheryl, I have some special tasks that I have already volunteered you for! ;-)
For everyone else, as we get closer, I will have ideas for more volunteer tasks.
Right now, we always need help with registration. You can contact me or Mark
Alman to volunteer.
The cooks are always in need of people to help clean up on Sunday morning.
They often need prep help and serving help, too. The cooks may also need help
hauling stuff out and back home. To volunteer for those jobs, contact Stefan
Creaser.
We need firewood for the various fires. Contact me if you are in the Central
Texas area.
I'm sure the more tasks will come up.
Thanks,
Allan
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From: Sheryl Rieck
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] TCR Volunteers
Allan,
I have not seen a listing of volunteers that you need for TCR. I assume you
need volunteers? I would actually volunteer if I knew what to sign up for. I
can't volunteer for an unknown task for fear of latrine duty or something
equally disgusting.
Sheryl, Ready for TCR!
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What we could really do with is people who will help with
washing up on Saturday after the meal or Sunday morning :-) Last year
we had only 1 person at a time ('bout 3 people volunteered, total -
Thanks guys!) but that wasn't quite enough.
We'll also need help putting up the cooks tent once the trailer
arrives. And, as Allan said, a couple of hours of chopping or general
food prep on Saturday.
As it gets nearer the time I'll have a better idea, and if you
want to volunteer please wait for that request.
Cheers,
Stefan
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From: Sheryl Rieck <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] TCR Volunteers
Allan,
I have not seen a listing of volunteers that you need for TCR.
I assume you need volunteers? I would actually volunteer if I knew what
to sign up for. I can't volunteer for an unknown task for fear of
latrine duty or something equally disgusting.
Sheryl, Ready for TCR!
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Bye Matt. Let us know when you regain your sense of humor and decide to come
back.
Louise
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:29:17 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Totally non caving related
Your humor isn't what i was specifically referring to, so I must apologize for
not deleting the old replies. I actually got a chuckle out of it.
It's the fact that it seems like since Bill pointed this out. The Me too posts
have actually increased and more importantly everyone keeps point out that
their response is either over 100 words or under. Again I could careless about
if you response is 1 letter or 100000 words (though I could say I'd probably
ignore one that long). Which a few posts like that are understandable people
want to passive aggressively show that they don't like Bill's idea. It happens
everywhere. The fact that it's gone on so long is what is annoying. I'd hate
for Bill to get annoyed to the point of leaving, not that I actually think he
would.
Just saying again think about the fact that some people love to hear the quips
and others don't. Not saying you have to quit making them, just maybe not on
every topic. Personally i want everyone to have fun, but at the same time
having 20-40 emails waiting everyday to be read and most of them being not
about anything really, and a lot of them talking about 100words, gets a bit
annoying. Again that's what facebook and forums are for.
Though I suspect all I've done is make it so more people will post me too on
here,Matt Turner
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without
accepting it." - Aristotle
"Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do
that."- Norman Vincent Peale
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 5:12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Totally non caving related
WOW - my comment was meant to bring humor to the silliness of it all, because,
like you, I was sick of it.
Sorry I kept it alive.....
I'll keep my "humor" to myself......
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Matt,
Thanks for the comment, I did want to point out that I don't think you need to
worry too much about Bill Mixon, internationally recognized caving curmudgeon
and literary critic. He has played at the highest levels of the
speleopolitical game for many years and has some pretty thick skin (and done
good work). I'm also sure he knows how to use the delete key. Understand that
cavers are an irreverent bunch and rarely pass up an opportunity to good
naturedly harass a fellow well-known caver (even if the timing is usually bad)
So, I was thinking about this and your post sounds more like a rough day at the
office - trust me, I understand. So, when you get home from work tonight, I
would recommend that you try the following:
Cross the threshold,
Drop your brief case,
Close and lock the door (including throwing the deadbolt),
Close the blinds,
Change into your bathrobe (you might be suffering from an underwear
construction problem - ask any woman about this),
Turn down the lights,
Put on some soft music,
Pour yourself a glass of wine,
Find a comfortable chair ,
Take a few depth breaths,
Take your mind to a happy place,
And, try and get a grip (on life).
If you do that every day, life will be better.
If that doesn't work, try some Ti Chi, TM, kicking the dog, more alcohol, etc.
They are also tried and true methods.
Geary
(So as not to offend anyone, I did not do a word count so I don't know if I'm
over or under 100 words) LOL's
"It is the mark or an uneducated mind to use someone else's quote or witty
saying and not come up with one of your own" - G. Schindel, 2009
Previous post included for reference.
From: Matt Turner [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Totally non caving related
Your humor isn't what i was specifically referring to, so I must apologize for
not deleting the old replies. I actually got a chuckle out of it.
It's the fact that it seems like since Bill pointed this out. The Me too posts
have actually increased and more importantly everyone keeps point out that
their response is either over 100 words or under. Again I could careless about
if you response is 1 letter or 100000 words (though I could say I'd probably
ignore one that long). Which a few posts like that are understandable people
want to passive aggressively show that they don't like Bill's idea. It happens
everywhere. The fact that it's gone on so long is what is annoying. I'd hate
for Bill to get annoyed to the point of leaving, not that I actually think he
would.
Just saying again think about the fact that some people love to hear the quips
and others don't. Not saying you have to quit making them, just maybe not on
every topic. Personally i want everyone to have fun, but at the same time
having 20-40 emails waiting everyday to be read and most of them being not
about anything really, and a lot of them talking about 100words, gets a bit
annoying. Again that's what facebook and forums are for.
Though I suspect all I've done is make it so more people will post me too on
here,
Matt Turner
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without
accepting it." - Aristotle
"Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do
that."- Norman Vincent Peale
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http://www.carthagepress.com/news/x772318817/What-lies-beneath
Would anybody care to tell Ms. Juhala that she not only looks like a spelunker,
but she is a spelunker ?
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Here is a sign of the hard economic times.
A putt-putt course in a cave:
http://www.laurelcaverns.com/kavernputt.htm
My only complaint is that it will be a fad, and will eventually lose
interest and have to be torn out of the cave, possibly causing damage.
An artificial cave would be more appropriate. Right ??
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David,
I used to work there. The miniature golf course is not really in the
cave, but is built into the visitors center, which itself is built
around the cave's entrance. It is not a new thing, either, but has been
there for about 20 years or so. It's pretty cool, with a cave theme.
-- Jim
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From: David [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:21 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] commercial cave gimmicks
Here is a sign of the hard economic times. A putt-putt course in a cave:
http://www.laurelcaverns.com/kavernputt.htm
My only complaint is that it will be a fad, and will eventually lose
interest and have to be torn out of the cave, possibly causing damage.
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Does anyone know the current whereabouts of Mike Boon? If not, how about any
cavers in Alberta, Canada? I have a friend who would like to correspond with
Boon. T.R. Evans used to keep tabs on him. Could someone get me in touch with
T.R.?
Thanks,
Bill Steele
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From: Keith Ortiz <[email protected]>
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:01 PM
link in the article led to a caver's dream light ...
http://elektrolumens.com/FireSword/FireSword-IV.html
3,000+ lumens for $399.99.
discussion and further pictures found here:
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=187587
rgds
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Walt Pirie
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: The LED's Dark Secret
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/optoelectronics/the-leds-dark-se
cret
Walt
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All,
Just in time for your three day weekend, the third quarter version of The TEXAS
CAVER has been posted to the Members Area by our very own near and dear web
extraordinaire, Butch Fralia.
This is a humongous issue (60 pages, gasp! Yes, you read correctly!), chock
full of TONS of great photos from ICS, a superb ICS wrap up article by George
Veni, a hilarious piece by Bill Steele in regard to a recent CaveTex
discussion, thoughts and recollections from ICS from a plethora of Texas
cavers, and some touching tributes from various Texas cavers for three special
gentlemen who are no longer with us and have gone on to their next great
adventures, plus, an award winning photo on the cover!
This issue would not have been possible without the extraordinary contributions
of a legion of fellow cavers, specifically, George Veni for his excellent ICS
article (good job leading that beast, George!) and the excellent response I
received from my pleas for photos. The hero of this issue is PETE LINDSLEY, who
sent me over 120 photos, of which ~60 of his photos alone are used!
A huge hats off to Pete and my eternal gratitude to all of the cavers who
contributed to this special issue!
This issue will also be available for purchase at TCR by non-TSA members or for
extra copies for yourself at $4 each.
But, heck, apply your four dollars towards joining the TSA immediately or at
TCR and receive this issue as a treasured prize and keepsake!
Not a TSA member? No problem! We still would like for you to contemplate
becoming a TSA member. Send me an email for your complimentary past issue of
the TEXAS CAVER and see what you've been missing.
Visit the TSA website at www.cavetexas.org and become a paid member and/or
become an online member of the TSA.
If you're a TSA member, but haven't yet joined the Digital Revolution, it is
extremely painless to do so.
Go to http://www.cavetexas.org/members/ and sign up and enjoy the back issues!
Please remember to select how you want your TC: mail or digital.
Be sure to also peruse the back issues of the TEXAS CAVER, if you haven't done
so already.
There now are a total of 16 issues of the Pulitzer worthy TEXAS CAVER available
for your reading pleasure!
You can still opt to receive a hard copy TC, but will have to wait a couple of
weeks, at the earliest, to receive your latest newsletter via snail mail.
The Members Area continues to expand very well and we currently have grown to
81 members, with 45 opting to receive their TC digitally. This is nearly 50% of
the total membership.
Let's see if we can hit 100 this weekend!
Enjoy and have a great and safe Labor Day weekend, especially those at and on
their way to/from Deep and Punkin!
Mark Alman - TSA Chairman and TEXAS CAVER Editor
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OUTSTANDING JOB, Mark!
Just skimmed the issue while at work (on my BIG monitor) and the fotos are
awesome.? Hats off to the photographers.
When I'm not shopping at the Austin Cactus and Succulent Society sale this
weekend at Zilker Botanical Gardens, I'll be reading my online edition.? Of
course, I look forward to the hard copy for my collection :-)
julia
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 8:06 am
Subject: [Texascavers] The Huge Mega ICS Issue of the TEXAS CAVER is now online!
?
All,
?
?
Just in time for your three day weekend, the?third
quarter version of The TEXAS CAVER has been posted?to
the?Members Area by our very own near and dear web extraordinaire, Butch
Fralia.
?
?
This is?a humongous issue (60 pages, gasp! Yes,
you read correctly!), chock full of?TONS of great photos from ICS, a superb
ICS wrap up article by George Veni, a hilarious piece by Bill Steele in regard
to a recent CaveTex discussion, thoughts and recollections from ICS from a
plethora of Texas cavers,?and some touching tributes from various
Texas?cavers for three special gentlemen who are no longer with us and have
gone on to their next great adventures, plus,?an award winning photo on the
cover!
?
This issue would not have been possible without the
extraordinary contributions of a legion of fellow cavers, specifically, George
Veni for his excellent ICS article (good job leading that beast, George!) and
the excellent response I received from my pleas for photos. The hero of this
issue is PETE LINDSLEY, who sent me over 120 photos, of which ~60 of his photos
alone are used!
?
?
A huge hats off to Pete and?my eternal gratitude?to
all of the cavers who contributed to this special issue!
?
?
This issue will also be available for purchase at TCR
by non-TSA members or for extra copies for yourself at $4
each.
?
?
But, heck, apply your four dollars towards joining the
TSA immediately or at TCR and receive this issue as a treasured prize and
keepsake!
?
?
Not a TSA member? No problem! We still would like for you to
contemplate becoming a TSA member. Send me an email for your
complimentary?past issue of the TEXAS CAVER and see what you've
been missing.
Visit the TSA website at www.cavetexas.org and become a paid member
and/or become an online member of the TSA.
?
If you're a TSA member, but?haven't yet joined
the?Digital Revolution,?it is extremely painless to do so.
?
Go to?http://www.cavetexas.org/members/?and
sign up and enjoy the back issues!
?
?Please remember to select how you want your TC: mail or
digital.
?
Be sure to also peruse the back issues of the TEXAS CAVER, if
you haven't done so already.
There now are?a total of 16?issues of the
Pulitzer worthy TEXAS CAVER available for your reading pleasure!
?
You can still opt to receive a hard copy TC,?but will have to
wait?a couple of?weeks, at the earliest, to receive your latest
newsletter via snail mail.
The Members Area?continues to?expand very well and we
currently have grown to?81 members, with 45 opting to receive their TC
digitally.?This is?nearly
50%?of the total membership.
Let's see if we can hit 100 this weekend!
?
?
Enjoy and have a great and safe?Labor Day weekend,
especially those at and on their way to/from Deep and Punkin!
?
?
?
Mark Alman - TSA Chairman and TEXAS CAVER Editor
?
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