texascavers Digest 7 Sep 2009 16:53:54 -0000 Issue 849

Topics (messages 12034 through 12040):

Re: food for caving
        12034 by: Louise Power
        12035 by: kego3.sbcglobal.net
        12036 by: kego3.sbcglobal.net
        12037 by: David

Re: Edwards survey
        12038 by: Mark Alman

another cave diving fatality
        12039 by: David

request for computer help
        12040 by: J. LaRue Thomas

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In the early days, we used to take cans and cans of Vienna Sausages or Deviled 
Ham for cave food. When Mike McConnell and I used to take first-timers to 
Mexico over Xmas, we finally started taking the canned chickens and sometimes 
got veggies in the market for camp food. Took canned hams to the people who 
lived in the area where we went caving and they looked after our rigs. 
 
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:35:47 -0500
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Texascavers] food for caving
> 
> Back in the good ole days, we didn't have a lot of food to choose from
> compared to
> the mega-stores we have now. Does anybody remember a trip to
> Piggly Wiggly's?
> 
> Nowaday, we not only have mega-stores, but we have lots of different
> stores that get there
> products from all over the world. I guess we can thank
> globalization for that ?
> 
> Anyways, here is a new product that I recommend you take on your next
> road trip to
> a cave:
> 
> http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv163/fplopez/THE-PEPSI-LIPTON-TE.jpg
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> David
> 
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We're going to try to make it.  If we get done with errands quick enough we'll 
be at dinner, if not we'll shoot for the film. 

kego
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From: David
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] food for caving
Sent: Sep 5, 2009 11:35 AM

Back in the good ole days, we didn't have a lot of food to choose from
compared to
the mega-stores we have now.     Does anybody remember a trip to
Piggly Wiggly's?

Nowaday, we not only have mega-stores, but we have lots of different
stores that get there
products from all over the world.    I guess we can thank
globalization for that ?

Anyways, here is a new product that I recommend you take on your next
road trip to
a cave:

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv163/fplopez/THE-PEPSI-LIPTON-TE.jpg

Cheers,

David

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Oops.  Replied to the wrong email.  Damn crackberry. 

Move along...nothing to see here!

Keith
------Original Message------
From: David
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] food for caving
Sent: Sep 5, 2009 11:35 AM

Back in the good ole days, we didn't have a lot of food to choose from
compared to
the mega-stores we have now.     Does anybody remember a trip to
Piggly Wiggly's?

Nowaday, we not only have mega-stores, but we have lots of different
stores that get there
products from all over the world.    I guess we can thank
globalization for that ?

Anyways, here is a new product that I recommend you take on your next
road trip to
a cave:

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv163/fplopez/THE-PEPSI-LIPTON-TE.jpg

Cheers,

David

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After further taste test, the product I recommended actually taste
exactly like watered-down Mountain Dew.     But for some reason, it
hit the spot.

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In that vein, is anyone familiar with this property that was visited in the 
past and willing to do some ridgewalking this fall on some, potentially, virgin 
property?


Please contact me offline, if you know of this property and/or are interested.


Thanks,

Mark


 
 
 I am a landowner in Real County and I got these two e-mail addresses from the 
internet.  One should be the chairman of the Texas Speleological Ass. and the 
other the chairman of the Bexar Co. cavers.  I was hoping you or someone you 
could pass this on to could steer me in the right direction.  
 
Seven or eight years ago, our ranchhand showed us a sinkhole and cave on our 
family property between Leakey and Campwood.  A caver(don't remember his name) 
from the San Antonio area came and looked at it, crawled down into it, found a 
small room and hit a dead end fairly quickly.  I've been down there myself and 
think it was a dead end.  Later, while driving, he saw grass in a dry streambed 
which indicated to him water was not flowing there.  Sure enough, there was a 
cave where water flowed into from the creek bed following a rain.  
There was a tunnel off a small room which showed promise and he was very 
excited about it because water was going somewhere.  Water had washed some dirt 
into the tunnel so some excavation will be needed.   And I've since noticed 
water flowing  another direction as well from the same small underground room.  
  He never returned.   
 
Just recently, I have personally purchased  173 acres between Leakey and 
Campwood.  I have not fully explored the property but in one hike I found two 
sinkholes.  There is no opening, just large depressions. 
 
So both of these areas need some exploration.  But I am aware that manual labor 
from a contractor or a backhoe operator or some other method is needed to do 
some manual work.  I realize cavers want to explore caves and or not manual 
laborers, so that is why I am asking about contractors or methods to explore 
these situations.  
 
Perhaps a caver could come give a recommendation on how to proceed and who 
could be contacted to do some excavation work so it could be done properly.
 
Any major work project I would want to do after deer season as there are 
hunters on the properties.  




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From: Ron Ralph <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 9:46:31 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Edwards survey


Cavers,
 
A year and a half ago someone explored and surveyed a cave on Brian Freeman’s 
property in Edwards County. Now Brian calls and wants to know the results. If 
you or someone you know participated please let me know off line. And if help 
is needed with the map, let me know that and I will find drafting support.
 
Ron Ralph
Texas Speleological Survey


      

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There was another fatality this past weekend at or near Ginnie Springs.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090905/ARTICLES/909051011/1002?Title=Cave-diver-58-is-found-dead-at-Ginnie-Springs

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All,
This is not caving but you folks are the most likely to have the info I need...

My father saved personal history information to the larger-type (5 inch?) floppies. The info does not appear to be anywhere else. He used two computers (1 Apple, 1 PC) but both died many years ago. I do not even know which computer he saved from.

Is there anyone out there who can still read large floppies and convert their info to something my family can use? I will be where the disks are in late October.

Please respond to me off-list. Thanks, Jacqui
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