texascavers Digest 5 Sep 2009 16:35:49 -0000 Issue 848
Topics (messages 12021 through 12033):
OT - Austin Museum Day
12021 by: germanyj.aol.com
Re: commercial cave gimmicks
12022 by: Louise Power
Re: The LED's Dark Secret
12023 by: David
Is this an ice cave ??
12024 by: David
12025 by: Brian Riordan
Re: TCR Volunteers
12026 by: Andy Zenker
12027 by: germanyj.aol.com
PBSS September meeting announcement
12028 by: J. LaRue Thomas
Edwards survey
12029 by: Ron Ralph
Will and Bet White Distinguished Lecture - Friday, October 9
12030 by: Geary Schindel
TSS work session 9-9-09
12031 by: Ron Ralph
TSA elections
12032 by: Ron Ralph
food for caving
12033 by: David
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Austin Museum Day
Sunday, September 20?
In celebration of Austin Museum Day, the
annual, free, city-wide rediscovery of Austin
museums, the Bob Bullock Texas History Museum is offering free exhibit
admission and fun family activities,
including story time, character photo
opportunities, hands-on exhibit activities,
and an exciting treasure hunt.
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Hi guys,
It even says at the top of the page:
Kavernputt
A ten thousand square foot simulated cave is an eighteen hole golf course.
Louise
> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 00:25:29 -0500
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: [Texascavers] RE: commercial cave gimmicks
>
> David,
>
> I used to work there. The miniature golf course is not really in the
> cave, but is built into the visitors center, which itself is built
> around the cave's entrance. It is not a new thing, either, but has been
> there for about 20 years or so. It's pretty cool, with a cave theme.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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> From: David [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:21 AM
> To: Cavers Texas
> Subject: [Texascavers] commercial cave gimmicks
>
> Here is a sign of the hard economic times. A putt-putt course in a cave:
> http://www.laurelcaverns.com/kavernputt.htm
> My only complaint is that it will be a fad, and will eventually lose
> interest and have to be torn out of the cave, possibly causing damage.
>
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That was a funny forum.
All those weird LED fanatics talking about salivating at wicked flashlights.
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Is this an ice cave ??
If so, if there were an upper entrance, it would be a "cool" thru trip.
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Technology/fm_crying_face_glacier_090902_ssv.jpg
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There used to be (may still be) a glacier in Valdez, Alaska that had a
river flowing through it that would run in the summer and freeze in
the winter (novel concept). If you hiked up the frozen river tunnel,
there would be a fair sized frozen lake a couple hundred yards up. A
few of my friends would bring lanterns up there and play hockey in a
relatively warm, climate controlled "arena" (28 F inside versus -10 F
outside). Really, REALLY cool.
:)
-B
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:16 PM, David<[email protected]> wrote:
> Is this an ice cave ??
>
> If so, if there were an upper entrance, it would be a "cool" thru trip.
>
>
> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Technology/fm_crying_face_glacier_090902_ssv.jpg
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Stefan,
I'll be happy to wash dishes and help in the kitchen again.
Andy Zenker
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>wrote:
> *What we could really do with is people who will help with washing up on
> Saturday after the meal or Sunday morning :-) Last year we had only 1
> person at a time (‘bout 3 people volunteered, total – Thanks guys!) but that
> wasn’t quite enough.*
>
> * *
>
> *We’ll also need help putting up the cooks tent once the trailer arrives.
> And, as Allan said, a couple of hours of chopping or general food prep on
> Saturday.*
>
> * *
>
> *As it gets nearer the time I’ll have a better idea, and if you want to
> volunteer please wait for that request.*
>
> * *
>
> *Cheers,*
>
> *Stefan*
>
> * *
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>
> *From:* Sheryl Rieck <[email protected]>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:52 PM
>
> *Subject:* [Texascavers] TCR Volunteers
>
>
>
> Allan,
>
>
>
> I have not seen a listing of volunteers that you need for TCR. I assume
> you need volunteers? I would actually volunteer if I knew what to sign up
> for. I can’t volunteer for an unknown task for fear of latrine duty or
> something equally disgusting.
>
>
>
> Sheryl, Ready for TCR!
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COOL, Andy! That means we'll be working together. I plan to help out at the
camp kitchen all weekend :-)
Thanks for volunteering!
julia
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From: Andy Zenker <[email protected]>
To: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Volunteers
Stefan,
I'll be happy to wash dishes and help in the kitchen again.
Andy Zenker
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]> wrote:
What we could really do with
is people who will help with washing up on Saturday after the meal or Sunday
morning
:-) Last year we had only 1 person at a time (‘bout 3 people
volunteered, total – Thanks guys!) but that wasn’t quite enough.
We’ll also need help putting
up the cooks tent once the trailer arrives. And, as Allan said, a couple of
hours of chopping or general food prep on Saturday.
As it gets nearer the time I’ll
have a better idea, and if you want to volunteer please wait for that request.
Cheers,
Stefan
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From: Sheryl Rieck
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] TCR Volunteers
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Allan,
I have not seen a listing of volunteers that you need for
TCR. I assume you need volunteers? I would actually volunteer if I
knew what to sign up for. I can’t volunteer for an unknown task for
fear of latrine duty or something equally disgusting.
Sheryl, Ready for TCR!
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Greetings, all:
The regularly scheduled monthly meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological
Society will be on Tuesday September 8th, at 7:00 pm, in the back
room at Murray's Deli which is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
Topics of discussion: Planning the trip to Deep Cave (Carta Valley)
September 18-20, the next 5 Mouth dig, report from SW Regional, other cave
stuff...
For further information contact an officer: Jacqui Thomas
[email protected] , Sharon Long [email protected] , or Bill
Bentley [email protected]
Regarding The Hole News (especially trip reports): Kel Thomas
[email protected]
PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was
chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on
January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated
Grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the
Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the
cave conservation ethics of the National Speleological Society.
National Speleological Society web page:
http://www.caves.org/
Texas Speleological Association web page:
http://www.cavetexas.org
Southwestern Region of the NSS web page:
http://www.caves.org/region/swr/
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Cavers,
A year and a half ago someone explored and surveyed a cave on Brian
Freeman's property in Edwards County. Now Brian calls and wants to know the
results. If you or someone you know participated please let me know off
line. And if help is needed with the map, let me know that and I will find
drafting support.
Ron Ralph
Texas Speleological Survey
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Folks,
I'm pleased to announce that the Edwards Aquifer Authority's next Distinguished
Lecture will be by Dr. Will White, Professor Emeritus in the Department of
Geosciences at Pennsylvania State University and Dr. Bet White, Retired Senior
Research Associate with the Department of Civil Engineering also at
Pennsylvania State University. Will has authored 426 journal articles and 10
books including his 1988 textbook, "Geomorphology and Hydrology of Karst
Terrains. Bet is a fellow of the American Association of University Women and
has published more than 50 journal article and co-authored the Book, "Karst
Hydrology: Concepts from the Mammoth Cave Area" with Will.
They have both been active in karst research for more than 50 years and will be
speaking on the topic of Karst Science in the 21st Century - Accomplishments
and Directions. If you would like a copy of the flyer, please send me an email.
The lecture will occur on Friday, October 9, from 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM at
Southwest Research Institute. The cost of the lecture is $20 and includes
lunch and refreshments. Reservations are require and may be made by contacting
Elida Bocanegra by phone at 210.222.2204 or by email above. Seating is limited
and reservations are based on a first come first served basis. If you are
unable to attend, reservations must be cancelled by October 7.
Thank you,
Geary Schindel, P.G.
Geary M. Schindel, P.G.
Chief Technical Officer
Edwards Aquifer Authority
1615 N. St. Mary's Street
San Antonio, Texas 78215
210.222.2204
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Cavers,
There is a scheduled second Wednesday work session of the Texas
Speleological Survey September 9th at the JJ Pickle Research Center on
Burnet Road north of highway 183. We will work on the oversized flat map
files and try to get another batch ready for a copy session at Texas Parks
and Wildlife Department. We will continue to update electronic files and
maybe scan and clean a few regular sized maps. Come by and see if you would
like to organize one of our cave rich counties.
Both publication sales and the library will be open. If you attend, you will
also be able to work on your own projects as well. The door will be open at
5:00 p.m. and stay open till we adjourn. The TSS office phone is 475-8802 if
you get lost or stopped by the guard. Remember it is best to arrive before
6:00 pm, or the gate guards might not let you in! If you have questions or
problems, please contact me at <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected] or the office manager, Jim Kennedy. Please go to
<http://www.utexas.edu/tmm/sponsored_sites/tss/tsscalendar.htm>
http://www.utexas.edu/tmm/sponsored_sites/tss/tsscalendar.htm for additional
information.
Ron Ralph
Cell: 797-3817
Map to the place is at: http://www.utexas.edu/maps/prc/ On PRC map 2 ("NW
Area"), 18-A is the little building just above the "ra" in "Granberry". Park
to the south in the PETEX lot across the street (Read Granberry Trail) from
building 18-A
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Cavers,
Election of officers for 2010 will be held at TCR, probably Sunday, October
18th (to be finalized later). President Mark Alman appointed me Elections
Committee Chair to fill a slate for the four offices. This is the first call
for interested candidates. You must be a member of both the Texas
Speleological Association and the National Speleological Society to hold
office. Please respond to me off-line if you are interested in serving. And
if you are not interested but think you know someone who would do a good job
let me know and I will twist their arm to run.
Write if you have questions or suggestions to help me fill the slate. And
pass this on to others who may not subscribe to the list.
Ron Ralph
Duties of TSA Officers
Nominations for TSA officers are in process. This page is an excerpt from
the TSA Constitution describing the duties of TSA Officers.
Article IV: Officers
A. The Executive Council consists of the Chairman, Vice-Chairman, Secretary,
Treasurer and the Chair of each standing committee. Elected officers shall
take office on the first day of the New Year.
1. The Chairman, when present, shall preside over all TSA meetings.
2. The Vice-Chairman is responsible for meeting and program arrangements and
shall preside at TSA meeting is the absence of the Chairman.
3. The Secretary records the minutes of TSA meetings and maintains a current
list of members.
4. The Treasurer keeps track of TSA assets by maintaining adequate financial
records, including those for The Texas Caver. The Treasurer prepares a
budget for the fiscal year, maintains the membership database, and insures
the database is available electronically to the membership.
B. A vacancy in any elected office other than that of Chairman may be filled
by the Executive Council by appointing any full member in good standing or
by special election if so desired by the Executive Council.
C. The Vice-Chairman shall fill a vacancy in the office of Chairman.
D. Officers may be removed from their position by a three-quarters majority
vote at any Member Meeting.
NOTES: The vice chair has historically organized the TSA spring convention.
And the chairman is responsible for organizing the TSA business
meetings...ie preparing agendas, scheduling the meeting...keeping things
moving at the meetings....and being a "speleo-referee" to keep things civil.
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Back in the good ole days, we didn't have a lot of food to choose from
compared to
the mega-stores we have now. Does anybody remember a trip to
Piggly Wiggly's?
Nowaday, we not only have mega-stores, but we have lots of different
stores that get there
products from all over the world. I guess we can thank
globalization for that ?
Anyways, here is a new product that I recommend you take on your next
road trip to
a cave:
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv163/fplopez/THE-PEPSI-LIPTON-TE.jpg
Cheers,
David
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