>> Now if only we could get you as fired up about coming down in the cave with 
>> us.... :) <<

What she said.

Bill 


---- Mallory Mayeux <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
> 
> David, I just skimmed your review, but you have to label it "SPOILER ALERT"
> before you write a review that gives away the plot!!! Texas cavers need to
> experience this firsthand!
> I was introduced to this piece of cinematic trash by Ronnie Harrison, a
> TX/KY caver in the Houston Grotto. He came over and we watched this movie @
> my place, just so he could watch the expression on my face during the last
> 15 minutes. This movie is SICK. A very disturbed individual wrote this
> script. It's vile.
> 
> That being said, I'm definitely going to buy a copy. I want to watch the
> last 15 minutes on repeat a few times, just to be sure that I saw what I
> think I saw. Also, I'd like to share this movie with friends & fellow
> cavers, preferably drunk ones. (you need to be, to watch this in it's
> entirety.) I want them to marvel, as I did, about who in the heck thought it
> a valuable use of their time to produce this crap.
> 
> David, I also love how you took time out of your busy schedule, not just to
> watch this thing, but to write a detailed review of it and post it on
> cavetex, and find links and web reviews for this trainwreck.
> 
> That's dedication. Now if only we could get you as fired up about coming
> down in the cave with us.... :)
> 
> Mallory
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:04 AM, David <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > You all remember the movies, "The Cave" and "The Descent,"
> > but do you remember the one called, "The Cavern" ?
> >
> > Why did Hollywood make 3 very crappy movies about
> > caving within a year of each other.      ( If they had
> > combined their financial resources and made one movie,
> > it would have probably been watchable. )
> >
> > http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeVideoArt/Large/68/305968.jpg
> >
> > http://www.imdb.com/media/rm745905408/tt0451262
> >
> > I found the DVD of "The Cavern" at Half-Price Books.     I don't
> > remember ever hearing about this movie, but it must have been
> > that it was rumored to be so bad, that I did not go see it.
> >
> > The directors of this movie seemed to try harder to make it
> > more about caving than the other two.     However, the audience
> > was never given an opportunity to connect with the cavers.   The
> > cavers seem like a crew assembled for a Survivor TV show.   I
> > didn't believe any caver on the group deserved to be on this
> > so-called important expedition, especially the trip leader.
> >
> > The cave was supposedly in a remote area of Kazakhkstan, however,
> > there was no beautiful cinematography to make the audience appreciate
> > the landscape.     The cave entrance and passage were not impressive at
> > all.
> >
> > The directors tried to make the audience feel sorry for the team as they
> > had lost a colleague on a previous trip to Peru.    She had washed away
> > in a sump and was never seen again.      I did not like the way they
> > played this part into the story.
> >
> > There was one sex scene in the cave entrance, but it was meant to lead
> > to the horror plot and not to be erotic.     This scene could have
> > been done completely
> > different like a love scene in "Love in the Time of Cholera," and it
> > could have played out
> > very well.     Instead the horror part was cheezy and stupid.    The
> > directors lost
> > an opportunity for the audience to bond with these 2 cavers.
> >
> > The cavers tried to appear well organized.    But any caver watching
> > it would see
> > a bunch of newbie thrillseekers.     They immediately find a hole in
> > the floor of the
> > cave passage that is a pit leading to a lower level.      They never
> > see on the cave
> > floor any sign of the cave being used by animals or some creature,
> > like footprints,
> > or bones.    They all bop the pit in a matter of seconds, but it is
> > only about 30 meters
> > deep.      I think the directors really lost credibility by this time
> > of the movie.    I don't
> > know what kind of rappelling device the trip leader used.   It was
> > larger than a Petzl Stop and was at the
> > face level of him.     He squeezed it to make it descend like a Petzl.
> >  ( Some Hollywood gadget ? )
> > Everybody else appeared to use a rock-climbers tiny Figure-8.    ( I
> > think most caver's would agree that this
> > type of Figure-8 is not proper vertical equipment for caving. )
> >
> > Most of them were using cheap internal frame backpacks on their backs
> > to haul their
> > gear, and most of these packs appeared to be half-empty.
> >
> > They all had 2 lights on their helmet.     But in an effort to look
> > cool, they used both
> > lights at the same time, even while their batteries were nearly
> > depleted and they were
> > hopelessly trapped in a cave with a beast.
> >
> > Immediately their cable-operated telephones did not work.
> > Immediately one of their
> > buddies was not in the room at the bottom of the pit.    He seemed to
> > vanish from thin
> > air.    They followed a large blood trail to him.     His intestines
> > were hanging out
> > and he was gasping for air.     The surface crewman was dissected by the
> > creature and thrown with the rope into the pit.
> >
> > The rest of the movie was like the Blair Witch Project.     They
> > eventually shot the
> > creature which they thought appeared to be a half-bear/half wolf, but
> > we didn't see
> > the creature then.      It survived several gun shots in the cave only
> > to kill the shooter.
> > ( How many cave trips carry a semi-automatic pistol into the cave ? )
> >   They said
> > in Kazakhstan, it was necessary, so I will buy that.
> >
> > So we are down to 3 cavers trapped in what appears to be a small cave with
> > only
> > a few passages barely big enough to stoop walk.   ( But how does the
> > creature
> > get down there if there is no passage, and how does such a large creature
> > move
> > so quietly in the cave and in the dark ).
> >
> > Then 2 girls are left alone to fend for themselves with almost no
> > light.     They
> > find a crawlway leading to sunlight.      The audience thinks these 2 girls
> > are
> > going to live.
> >
> > This is when the movie goes from bad to just plain ignorant, and trashy.
> >
> > The girls get caught, but for some reason unknown to the audience, they
> > faint
> > and wake up in a room with a campfire and a door sealed by a large rock.
> > They are naked, but covered in a bear rug.     They have no physical signs
> > of being kidnapped by a beast.
> >
> > There is meat roasting on a skewer above the fire, and the girls suddenly
> > for no reason become savagely hungry and start eating the meat like they
> > have not eaten in weeks.     They soon realize it was their trip leader
> > friend,
> > and begin to vomit in a way that most of the audience wants to vomit.
> >
> > They explore the room, and realize that some human occupies it and that
> > he was a child survivor of some sort of Russian plane crash back in the
> > 80's.
> >
> > The creature returns.     He appears to be some sort of cave-man wearing
> > a cave-bear skull for a mask.     He grunts and takes of his mask.    He
> > studies the girls.      He decides to spear one of them to a bloody death.
> > And then he apparently begins to rape the other one, as the movie
> > ends in her bloody covered face screaming.
> >
> > http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2690292992/tt0451262
> >
> > The worst movie ending I have ever seen.
> >
> > Nothing about the creature was believable.
> >
> > The movie audience will not learn anything positive about caving.
> > They will feel cavers are stupid for entering caves.    They will
> > feel cavers are boring people with no lives.
> >
> > Maybe the morale to the story was to tell someone where you
> > are going caving and to have a surface support group on your
> > expedition.     But they still would have all been eaten by the
> > caveman.
> >
> > Here is a web-review that seems to agree with me that the movie
> > sucked.
> >
> > http://www.horror.com/php/article-1309-1.html
> >
> > David Locklear
> > caver in Fort Bend County
> >
> > Ref:
> >
> > Here is a photo of the trip leader, shortly before he was roasted
> > on the skewer.
> >
> > http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2742394112/tt0451262
> >
> > http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Cavern/70051025
> >
> >
> > https://www.hotmoviesale.com/store/productView.aspx?idProduct=22874&ec=1&ProdId=29
> >
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