I would also say that there are those of us no longer in Texas, not a TSA
member (but former TSA for many years), who are still interested in what goes
on there. > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:36:57 -0600> To:
[email protected]> From: [email protected]> Subject:
[Texascavers] TEXAS CAVER Online makes sense> > Charles is exactly right. The
whole idea of an online TEXAS CAVER is > that it CAN be printed out (in color,
no less) and hard copy (and > digitally) archived for a whole lot less money
than the cost of > printing and mailing. I cannot imagine reading an important
digital > publication on line. I almost always print them out, collate them, >
and read the hard copy--with my feet up on the desk. Everybody has a > printer
and damned near everybody has internet. Those that don't can > have a friend do
it. The CAVER can be bigger, in color, more friendly > to submit to, timely,
and cheaper to produce and distribute. It is > one of the most important
positive decisions the TSA has made in a > long time. The technology is here
and the rewards will be great. The > only thing missing is that The TEXAS CAVER
is still an elite > subscription newsletter online which will not be readily
available to > all of the Texas cavers who would benefit from it and the TSA
(and > all of Texas caving) will suffer the consequences of not having those >
cavers as readers and contributors. They will miss out on the > important
information published in The CAVER and and the subscribers > will miss out on
the information which would normally be contributed > by those barred from
2-way access to The CAVER. The TSA is not an > association of Texas cavers; it
is an association of dues payers > beating a dying dog. It can accomplish its
goals only by reaching out > to and including ALL Texas cavers in its coverage.
The internet > offers a cheap and simple and effective way to do that. The
first > step has been taken. It's too bad that money rather than intellect >
prompted that change. Let's see if common sense can move it make the > next
step to include all Texas cavers in on the benefits of being a > part of the
Association by offering them access to both read and > contribute to the
valuable contents of The TEXAS CAVER.> > I must ask those in the TSA: Why do
you not want to reach everybody > who is caving in Texas with your safety and
conservation message and > to promote good and smart caving practices among
them and induce more > submission to The TEXAS CAVER? Why? The mechanism is in
place; let's > use it to reach out to those non-participants. Draw them in with
a > positive influence and counteract any bad caving habits they may >
have--all at no cost to anyone.> > --Ediger> > At 10:36 PM 1/15/2009, Charles
Goldsmith wrote:> >Now, to the issue at hand, I disagree, if anyone wants a
hard copy,> >have it printed, you'll come out a bit more expensive, but that
way> >the rest of us don't have to pay for the additional cost via higher>
>subscriptions.> >> >The TSA is moving in the correct direction.> >> >As far as
making sure these are always available, until time ends,> >proper planning of
the TSA with this is prudent.> >> >Multiple off-site storage of the files
should be mandatory, and> >accurate accounting of the off-site files.> >>
>Requiring everyone to pay more for a hard-copy is selfish and not> >prudent in
these economical times. I can afford for higher dues, do I> >want them, no. Not
everyone could afford them, we should probably> >talk about dropping them a bit
to help everyone out.> >> >If you don't have a printer, you can take the pdf to
many printing> >shops to have it printed. If you insist on having one mailed to
you> >in hard copy, perhaps the TSA will consent with doing a special rate>
>for those, paying a higher dues to cover the printing/mailing cost.> >This
should not be imposed on everyone though, only to those who elect> >to pay that
cost.> > >
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